Who was the greatest Heavyweight Post- Ali era?

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  • ScrotieMcBooger
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    #131
    Originally posted by Money Shot
    Sanders 03 alone would have destroyed both these jokers.
    At golf maybe, but not in the ring.

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    • nomadman
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      #132
      Originally posted by turbotime
      I agree. I don't think either were in their prime at all. Lewis was definitely closer to it though.

      Strange how the perception before the fight where Holyfield was favoured over Lewis (Lewis is soft, and chinny, inexperienced, etc.) changes in an instant for the rematch.
      True. That's the fight, IMO, which truly opened people's eyes about Lewis.

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        #133
        Originally posted by ScrotieMcBooger
        At golf maybe, but not in the ring.
        The fights would have been competitive, Bruno especially, as both fighters had great power but terrible gastanks and questionable chins.

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        • turbotime
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          #134
          Originally posted by It's Ovah
          True. That's the fight, IMO, which truly opened people's eyes about Lewis.
          It was the Briggs fight where Lewis got rocked that people really thought Holy was gonna put it on him. I even thought he was going to.

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            #135
            Originally posted by -Deal With It-
            Tyson's resume is leagues & leagues & leagues ahead of Vitali's. And very comfortably ahead Wlad's.
            Depends if you count losses on a resume, and the manner of the wins. Tyson has the marginally better names on his win record, but some pretty inconsistent performances throughout his career. Wlad's got the benefit of longevity of reign and consistent domination of his opponents. Tyson's also got some absolute blitzes of very good guys like Larry Holmes which add a lot to his resume.

            But of course, there's this point:

            Originally posted by turbotime
            They aren't even done fighting so I think all of this judgement is a bit premature.

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            • nomadman
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              #136
              Originally posted by turbotime
              It was the Briggs fight where Lewis got rocked that people really thought Holy was gonna put it on him. I even thought he was going to.
              So did I to be honest, though Briggs was always a big puncher and very dangerous in the opening rounds. I was pretty nervous for the fight, let's put it that way.

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              • Mr. Invincible
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                #137
                Originally posted by MJ223
                Holmes was a better boxer and didn't get knocked out by people he wasn't supposed to...... Cant say the same for Vitali Wlad or Lennox
                You can say that safely about Vitali sir. He's never been down in 45 pro fights.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by MJ223
                  I brought up Ross ko'ing Wlad you said Ali and Foreman lost to Spinks and Young by UD..... I said its not as bad as getting ko'd in your prime by Puritty.... You said they were greats and shouldn't have lost period...... Losing to a Gold medal winner while ur past prime isn't as bad as getting ko'd by a sub par guy in your prime...... Losing a UD to a bum isnt as bad as getting ko'd by one..... Flip what??? It's really that simple
                  Wlad was 21 when he lost to Purrity, not exactly most fighters' prime years, and certainly not Wlad's. His losses to Sanders and Brewster are far more damaging, legacy wise.

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                  • -Deal With It-
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                    You can say that safely about Vitali sir. He's never been down in 45 pro fights.
                    Try again.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by It's Ovah
                      Wlad was 21 when he lost to Purrity, not exactly most fighters' prime years, and certainly not Wlad's. His losses to Sanders and Brewster are far more damaging, legacy wise.
                      I agree but Wlad should not have lost to a fighter like Puritty. 21 or not. These are things you have to consider when you're making comparisons to ATG fighters.



                      If Wlad had lost to a top fighter it would be different.

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