Who was the greatest Heavyweight Post- Ali era?

[ScrotieMcBooger]

Sanders was a joke. Pierre Coetzer redux.

[-Deal With It-]

The 1988 Holmes KO is Tyson's best win I agree. After that it was downhill all the way.


On Corrie Sanders, and since you are a big Lewis fan, Levi Billups goes the distance with Mr Lewis and in his next fight is blasted KO1 by Sanders. IMO Sanders would have creamed Bruno. Bruno hated and avoided fighting anybody who was A. fast. B. A noted big puncher and C. Younger than him. Ruddock was also a lesser fighter than Sanders. No effective jab, and a questionable chin spells KO loss if he'd fought prime Sanders. I'd still rate Ruddock slightly higher than Bruno by the way.

Get real buddy.

Corrie Sanders couldn't even get past Rahman, a guy who has one of the most disgraceful chins in recent memory.

Corrie Sanders doesn't have one win over a ranked or highly regarded opponent, outside of his win over Ross Puritty's leftovers.

[Light_Speed]

Vitali got more votes than Holyfield and Wlad? LMAO

[joseph5620]

The 1988 Holmes KO is Tyson's best win I agree. After that it was downhill all the way.


On Corrie Sanders, and since you are a big Lewis fan, Levi Billups goes the distance with Mr Lewis and in his next fight is blasted KO1 by Sanders. IMO Sanders would have creamed Bruno. Bruno hated and avoided fighting anybody who was A. fast. B. A noted big puncher and C. Younger than him. Ruddock was also a lesser fighter than Sanders. No effective jab, and a questionable chin spells KO loss if he'd fought prime Sanders. I'd still rate Ruddock slightly higher than Bruno by the way.

Bruno fought young versions of Tyson, Lewis and Witherspoon. So that kills your theory that he avoided hard hitting and fast young fighters. And I hope you're not comparing Sanders body of work to Lewis.



And Ruddock was not " lesser" than Sanders. C Sanders is a one hit wonder who Klitschko fanatics love to overrate.

Hurricane Carter has one of the best wins in history. But no rational person considers him to be an ATG.

[nomadman]

Dude, Tyson's legacy is not built around the Holmes fight. Stop lying. Everybody knows Holmes was way past his best days. Tyson's legacy is based on becoming undisputed heavyweight champion while destroying a good number of top fighters.

Holmes is one of his top wins though, along with Spinks. beyond that his resume is solid, but not outstanding IMO. It's more the manner of his wins, brutal knockouts, that elevates him.

And of course his age is considered. Especially since you probably excuse Wlad for losing to the likes of Ross Puritty who Tyson never would have lost to at 21 or 22. Tyson was already a world champion at that age.

I think most people would agree that Tyson was the exception not the rule. His becoming champ at such a young age was phenomenal, but his decline was very marked as well, much like Bowe's. Wlad's domination at relatively late age has to be considered as well, especially if it continues into his forties, which is not out of the question.

[nomadman]

The 1988 Holmes KO is Tyson's best win I agree. After that it was downhill all the way.


On Corrie Sanders, and since you are a big Lewis fan, Levi Billups goes the distance with Mr Lewis and in his next fight is blasted KO1 by Sanders. IMO Sanders would have creamed Bruno. Bruno hated and avoided fighting anybody who was A. fast. B. A noted big puncher and C. Younger than him. Ruddock was also a lesser fighter than Sanders. No effective jab, and a questionable chin spells KO loss if he'd fought prime Sanders. I'd still rate Ruddock slightly higher than Bruno by the way.

Yeah, the Sand Man was a massively up and down fighter and and very dangerous fighter in the early rounds. But Bruno didn't avoid big punchers, he just tended to get scared and stiffen up his already overly muscled body, resulting in him often getting stopped by guys that he could, on paper, have beaten. If he was aware of Sanders rep, it may have affected him to the point that he would have fought scared and let Sanders swarm him for a TKO. If he kept his cool and boxed behind his jab he could have knocked Sanders out in the mid rounds. A lot of variable riding on the fight, from both fighters.

[nomadman]

Vitali got more votes than Holyfield and Wlad? LMAO

What can I say? There are a lot of Vit nuthuggers on this board.

[ScrotieMcBooger]

But Bruno didn't avoid big punchers, he just tended to get scared and stiffen up his already overly muscled body, resulting in him often getting stopped by guys that he could, on paper, have beaten.

Frank tended to freeze when he got hit, it was his biggest weakness and he lost some fights he was easily leading in because of that. Decent fighter outside of that and one of the sports genuine nice guys.

[Money Shot]

Get real buddy.

Corrie Sanders couldn't even get past Rahman, a guy who has one of the most disgraceful chins in recent memory.

Corrie Sanders doesn't have one win over a ranked or highly regarded opponent, outside of his win over Ross Puritty's leftovers.

You do realise Rahman took a standing count in that fight and still rates Sanders as the hardest puncher he ever faced, which includes Mr Lewis who he knocked out cold one fight later. As for your sly, pathetic dig at Wlad, LOL. But credit to Sanders. He produced the HW upset of the past decade and schooled the guy who is now the #1 HW on the planet with ten straight defences. That feat alone makes him way more dangerous than the likes of Bruno or Ruddock, supposed Lewis best wins outside Vitali. Sanders also gave Vitali more trouble than Lewis did. Lewis never had Vitali in any trouble aside from the cut opened by a hit and hold tactic.

[MJ223]

It's not like May Judah, which was a legitimate knockdown (though not a damaging one). Sanders caught Vit on the gloves and sort of wrenched him down. He'd definitely rocked him bad before that though.

I think the str8 left grazed Vit and he was on his way down followed by holding the head with an uppercut by Sanders.... I said the comparison because both happened fast and was legit but I couldn't blame the refs because they didn't have the luxury of instant replay