Is Mayweather the most well-rounded fighter ever?

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  • Poet682006
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    #361
    Originally posted by New England
    do you guys simply align yourself with some fighter and then blindly defend everything he does, regardless of the truth in the matter?
    That's EXACTLY what nuthuggers do.

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      #362
      Originally posted by poet682006
      ^^^^^ Fixed it for you for accuracy.
      Looks like that old brain of yours is failing you.

      Saddler more complete than Mayweather is fcuking hilarioussssssssssss

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        #363
        Originally posted by Roy Hobbs
        boxing has too rich and long a tradition for floyd to even come close to being the most well rounded fighter in history. Floyd is the most well rounded fighter of recent time but not in history. Ray Leonard is more well rounded than Floyd. Salvador Sanchez is another one. Ricardo Lopez and Charley Burley are others that are more well rounded.

        When you say the most well rounded you have to have the perfect blend of offense and defense. Floyd is far too defensive to ever take the title of most well rounded boxer ever. Not even close. This is the classic case of being prisoner of the moment. The latest is the greatest. Far from it.
        Why Sal Sanchez? They are very even and in a fight I'd pick Mayweather over him.

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          #364
          Originally posted by turbotime
          Looks like that old brain of yours is failing you.

          Saddler more complete than Mayweather is fcuking hilarioussssssssssss
          Sandy Saddler is more complete than a one-dimensional defensive specialist. Deal with it Junior.

          Poet

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            #365
            Originally posted by poet682006
            Sandy Saddler is more complete than a one-dimensional defensive specialist. Deal with it Junior.

            Poet
            Mayweather at 130 would've made Saddler look foolish. Sorry old man.

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              #366
              Originally posted by turbotime
              They are very even and in a fight I'd pick Mayweather over him.
              Of course you would: Your a ***** :jerk0ff9:

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                #367
                Originally posted by turbotime
                Mayweather at 130 would've made Saddler look foolish. Sorry old man.
                Mayweather at 130 wouldn't generate enough offense to keep Saddler off of him.

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                • New England
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                  #368
                  Originally posted by turbotime
                  A huge lay off? He was getting ready for Berto and Floyd stepped in instead. And you're acting like Floyd is so active during all of this lol


                  he prepared for berto but he did not fight him. he's also a year round athlete.

                  but if ring rust got busted off in the gym everybody would dispense with tune ups

                  the man hadn't been in a pro fight since margarito
                  it was the longest layoff of his career (i'm about 98% sure on that. if you want to check the boxrec and find that i'm wrong and it makes your day i'm cool with that)

                  and floyd fought marquez (again, not a great fight to get you ready for a true ww with punching power, but i hear plenty from the "mayweather fans" about how great of a win it was,) only about 8 months prior to his fight with shane i believe


                  it (floyd UD mosley,) was not a stellar win
                  that's become much more clear in light of how the following years of mosleys career played out

                  he is all done, and has been for some time.
                  Last edited by New England; 02-09-2012, 04:30 PM.

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                  • Brother Jay
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                    #369
                    Originally posted by New England
                    you think mosley is some great win?

                    in his very next fight he fought a draw with sergio mora (i had him losing, but i was on a stream and i refuse to watch that fight again on principal alone. a draw sounds find to me. it's still sergio mora, who would lose HIS next fight to BRIAN FLIPPIN VERA)

                    and then laid an egg against pacquiao?

                    shane mosley was certainly far beyond his best during that fight

                    he was coming off of a huge layoff (almost a year and a half,)
                    a "huge win" over a guy who hasnt hurt a fly since he was busted with loaded gloves

                    there's nothing idiotic about knowing that shane mosley was well beyond his best days in the mayweather fight. hell, if you follow him in the least it should jump right out at you. he cant pull the trigger to save his life. he had one good round, and then he started to think about his vacation after the fight

                    do you guys simply align yourself with some fighter and then blindly defend everything he does, regardless of the truth in the matter?
                    How was Shane Mosley not a great win when he was at the time the #1 WW champion of the world?

                    Explain this.

                    A fighter is only as good as his last fight. Mosley was coming off of a KO win over Margarito, who had beaten Miguel Cotto bloody for the distinction. I personally think those two are highly overrated, but many here on this site seem to think highly of those two Top Rank promoted fighters. Still, there is no proof that Margarito tried to use loaded gloves against any other fighter except Shane Mosley.

                    With that said, had Shane knocked Floyd out with that second round punch instead of just rocking him, your tune would be completely different. There's no doubt about it. You saying otherwise after the fact is just hypocritical.

                    Shane could obviously pull the trigger as he did something you RARELY IF EVER SEE: He rocked the best fighter of this era who almost never gets hit cleanly.

                    That's proof vs conjecture.

                    As far as Mora goes, Shane Mosley has NEVER been an effective fighter at 154lbs. His biggest win was over DLH and since that win he had been struggling until he beat Fernando Vargas who was on his way out. Mora was no slouch because he beat Vernon Forrest without a KO. That doesn't make him even better than a B fighter, but it definitely means that he's no slouch.

                    Shane's best weight has ALWAYS been LW, and he only came to WW to chase DLH for the money. He has admitted that much in old interviews. That's exactly why he skipped over the 140lb division.

                    Floyd had approached Mosley years ago for a fight and Mosley bowed out citing teeth problems.

                    Get it together, man.

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                      #370
                      I'd personally lean on Mayweather to beat Saddler at 130 despite Saddler being by far the very best fighter Mayweather would ever have faced at the weight and in his career general.

                      As opposed to Saddler, who has seen better in his career than Mayweather.

                      Of course, it would be a battle either way.

                      I don't think it's clear cut victory of either.

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