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Felix Trinidad an ATG at Welterweight?
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Last edited by SWEETSCIENCE100; 12-27-2011, 11:07 AM.
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Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View PostBy todays standard he would be one the greatset CW! Weight classes changed because people evovled and got bigger. Technology grew and people got stronger and better skilled due to training improvements. Norris was a good WW. Go back and watch his fights at ww if you can find them. It was early in his career but if you know boxing you can see it. For instance lets look at Adrian Broner, or Gary Russell Jr. 3 years from now they will both be in another weight class. But speaking of right now or maybe even 1 year ago, how would you have rate them ,as speacial fighters? Or do you have to wait until they recieve a belt and the media tell you thier speacial. I knew Norris was speaicial the when I saw him in the amertures. I knew Mayweather was speacial when I saw him in the amertures. You guys just need to lay low and learn, in a few years you'll look back and see that you were wrong and ignorant in boxing!
Am I explaining this to you simply enough?
I feel like I'm speaking to a chalk board right now in a scene from Harry Potter that magically has text appear when you talk to it.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostBut if you're talking about Johnson, the key is he was in the "heavyweight" division.The same applies to Marciano. Yes, he was a tiny heavyweight, but he was still heavyweight.
That doesn't mean take today's weight class of Light Heavyweight and cruiserweight and tie them in together just because the fighters in the early 1900's were around this weight...
Are you saying the Johnson is one of the greatest Cruiserweights?
Are you serious or just kidding?
BE BACK SOON GOT RUN! KEEP POSTING WE WILL CONTINUE LATER!Last edited by SWEETSCIENCE100; 12-27-2011, 11:14 AM.
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Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View PostDude I said #1 - #21. anybody can throw together a top 10! No Marvin hagler,hearns,duran are you serious? Anyone of them squash #4 on down on you list in every catergory!
This rebuttal is flawless, ignore me questioning your list and go straight to questioning mine.
Squash them in every category except their resumes at Welter pale in comparison.
Why am I in this thread ?.
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Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View PostYou just made my point son! The key is that he was in the HW division, yes at 185 pounds. Today thats CW OR EVEN LIGHT HEAVY, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPETE AT EITHER GIVE OR TAKE A FEW POUNDS!
BE BACK SOON GOT RUN! KEEP POSTING WE WILL CONTINUE LATER!
One minute, you're referring to what they did back in the day (i.e 140 -154) break down.
Now, you're referring to the weight classes of today to make a case for your agenda with Johnson.
Let's just be consistent here and not keep jumping back and forth. Are we going by today's weight classes or yesterdays?
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Originally posted by NChristo View PostThis rebuttal is flawless, ignore me questioning your list and go straight to questioning mine.
Squash them in every category except their resumes at Welter pale in comparison.
Why am I in this thread ?.
Let both of them go at it. This is probably the 3rd thread I saw those 2 fights. Green for a quality list man.
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I can't believe this is still being discussed.. If Tito could have maintained weight @ 147 and never moved up Shane Mosley's first lost would have been a brutal K.O. by Tito. Guys like Carlos(lineal Champ) Baldomir would have never been known. If he had stayed at 154 instead of moving up so fast he would have dominated before B-hop took his soul. I mean really for one Tito is already considered an ALL TIME GREAT and to put Bute in the same sentence is a SIN. Yea his biggest win was controversial I had the Fight even With OSCAR. but how can u compare that to the guy who had a 25 second count in his hometown . (smh)
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Originally posted by FJRod View PostI can't believe this is still being discussed.. If Tito could have maintained weight @ 147 and never moved up Shane Mosley's first lost would have been a brutal K.O. by Tito. Guys like Carlos(lineal Champ) Baldomir would have never been known. If he had stayed at 154 instead of moving up so fast he would have dominated before B-hop took his soul. I mean really for one Tito is already considered an ALL TIME GREAT and to put Bute in the same sentence is a SIN. Yea his biggest win was controversial I had the Fight even With OSCAR. but how can u compare that to the guy who had a 25 second count in his hometown . (smh)
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