Felix Trinidad an ATG at Welterweight?

[jtcs1981]

If you really want to debate me and know how I feel about Bute, bump this thread and meet me there and we will handle business for the world to see lol....

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...2#post11597682

Debate? We cant debate on opinions. You debate with facts. According to you Bute dont deserve a shot at Ward. Why? Did he deserve a shot at Kessler? Did Dirrell deserve a shot at Froch? I dont care how you feel about Bute. The only two out there that are real challenges to Ward are Bute and Dirrell. Other than that, I dont see any other fight relevant in that weight.

[ianblake]

http://www.boxingscene.com/-top-25-w...top-ten--23544

[Unknown Champ]

Tito is an ATG but just not the best at welter.

[NChristo]

I'd have Napoles just behind Ruben Carter at WW.

Dan, go kill yourself mate.

[turbotime]

LMAO You comparing Bute's run at 168 to Trinidad at 147 trumps everything I have ever done.... This thread will go down with the all time greats LOL!

I never compared their resume's at a whole, but there was a glaring period in Trinidad's run that hurts his status as an ATG, and that will most likely happen to Bute since he never got to fight the top contenders because of the super 6.

[Flux]

Yeah well the fact you don't any of Jose Napoles, Luis Manuel Rodriguez or Barney Ross on you list, and yet you have Terry Norris, despite having a career at 154. I don't care what your criteria is, it should be a 147 list, two weight lists are ******.

EDIT: that was a response to the guy who put the 1st list up.

[BoxingGenius27]

I never compared their resume's at a whole, but there was a glaring period in Trinidad's run that hurts his status as an ATG, and that will most likely happen to Bute since he never got to fight the top contenders because of the super 6.

I meant to put Trinidad at WW in my post. But you're still wrong by a long shot. Period. No, just no lol

[turbotime]

I meant to put Trinidad at WW in my post. But you're still wrong by a long shot. Period. No, just no lol

Nah, if Bute fights Ward soon it will be eerily similar to Tito fighting fringe contenders for 5 years, then finally fighting Oscar after he got done beating the top guys at the weight.

[Puya]

Yet, he did the exact same thing Bute is being accused of doing right now. Trinidad won his title against Blocker, defended against Oba Carr and Campas-

- and his next toughest 147 fight was against out of rehab- Pernell Whitaker.

During that time span (1994-1999) Pernell Whitaker, Oscar Delahoya, Ike Quartey, Jose Luis Lopez, even Carr and Wilfredo Rivera were taking tough fights with each other.

While Trinidad fought the likes of Lueshing, Waters, and Pineda, all the other champs were fighting stiff tests. And Trinidad is considered an ATG at that weight....

[raf727]

Define ATG. He doesn't rank in the top 10 and probably doesn't make it in the top 20 at welterweight.

ranking boxers is so biased, there is no objective standard in boxing which i am sure you know. ATG lists or p4p lists, or whatever you want, are all just opinion based.


unless they square off, theres no way of knowing, and thats the god damned truth right there.