Who punches harder: Sven Ottke or Andre Ward?

[Frogs!]

"-Sven had a home ref against Reid & Andre had a home ref against Kessler "

tunney just had to throw this out there.

[The Hammer]

So insignificant that there isn't even a single ranking available, even though the population is way bigger then in the US.

Floyd and Pac, especially Floyd, makes way more money then either Klitschko per fight if you wanna talk about selling.

Keep licking the Americans' asses, it will get you somewhere.

[Allucard]

probably ward, but the mundine stoppage is better than ward's best stoppages (jerson ravelo and rubin williams). it's an interesting question haha.

i would say ward because he KO'd most of the cans he fought on the way up, while ottke didnt. but on the other hand, ottke has more KO's than ward, as opposed to TKOs.

might have to chalk this one up to a draw

There's a reason why you guys are trying to compare Ward to Ottke: Joe Calzaghe. You don't want no one to compare Ward to the Zaghe because you know Ward is just miles apart better and that would defeat your Swastikas. But remember, the **** is an animal who only resembles smart, in deep it is really obvious in its plots and schemes and it's evilness derives from a deep inferiority complex and fear of the dark

[Bring It On]

Keep licking the Americans' asses, it will get you somewhere.

Wait, WHAT!?

No response to the Boxrec-post? I'm SHOCKED!

[The Hammer]

There's a reason why you guys are trying to compare Ward to Ottke: Joe Calzaghe. You don't want no one to compare Ward to the Zaghe because you know Ward is just miles apart better and that would defeat your Swastikas. But remember, the **** is an animal who only resembles smart, in deep it is really obvious in its plots and schemes and it's evilness derives from a deep inferiority complex and fear of the dark

Your repeated references to swastikas and ****s is uncalled for here. You're now on my ignore list.

[The Hammer]

Wait, WHAT!?

No response to the Boxrec-post? I'm SHOCKED!

I asked you months ago after Haye-Wlad what happened to your beloved David Haye in the fight, you then lied and said you were not expecting him to win, even though you voted for a KO by Haye in the pre-fight poll.

You're a pathetic creature. You hate yourself and your own people, while worshipping Haye and Ward.

You bash Wlad for trying only for decision wins, but he had 5 KOs in his past 6 fights, including three over people who had never been stopped before.

Yet you worship Andre Ward, who has ZERO KOs in his past 6 fights, despite two of his opponents being Miranda (KOed by Bute) and Green (KOed by Johnson).

[gauze]

probably ward, but the mundine stoppage is better than ward's best stoppages (jerson ravelo and rubin williams). it's an interesting question haha.

i would say ward because he KO'd most of the cans he fought on the way up, while ottke didnt. but on the other hand, ottke has more KO's than ward, as opposed to TKOs.

might have to chalk this one up to a draw

There's a reason why you guys are trying to compare Ward to Ottke: Joe Calzaghe. You don't want no one to compare Ward to the Zaghe because you know Ward is just miles apart better and that would defeat your Swastikas. But remember, the **** is an animal who only resembles smart, in deep it is really obvious in its plots and schemes and it's evilness derives from a deep inferiority complex and fear of the dark

why the fuuck is this post directed at me? i'm not even a calzaghe fan lol. i was in the middle of writing a post in another thread about who's had the better career: ward or calzaghe? i dont think i posted it though.

incase i didnt, the jist of it was that i think calzaghe's best wins are lacy and kessler. the lacy win, in hindsight, is nothing special. i picked calzaghe to school him but i didn't know lacy would be totally damaged and worthless after that fight. calzaghe's resume is nothing spectacular and the only reason calzaghe > ward at this current moment is the hopkins win.

froch > lacy. ward will pass calzaghe sooner than later. but you're sort of right, i'm not a fan of ward at all. if you weren't a fan of john ruiz, i wouldn't go calling you a **** over it.

anti-**** sympathy is pretty ******* if you ask me.

[Russian Crushin]

There are more sports than just boxing in the U.S., thus not as many fans.

Ward is a better more complete fighter than Ottke, the whole tournament PROVES he can beat just about any style there is.

[Spray_resistant]

Ward is an excellent all around fighter but last night showed me how pillowfisted he really is after landing flush clean shot after flush clean shot at over 40% accuracy on the Cobra but never hurt him once.

[gauze]

it would be sweet if america got in line with the rest of the world. metric system. no sports except boxing. bidets.

i really love farenheit though. 0 cold, 100 hot. 20 celsius tells me NOTHING.