Who punches harder: Sven Ottke or Andre Ward?

[The Hammer]

Ward is an excellent all around fighter but last night showed me how pillowfisted he really is after landing flush clean shot after flush clean shot at over 40% accuracy on the Cobra but never hurt him once.

Yes.

Jermain Taylor was able to knock Froch down, but Andre Ward couldn't do it, despite landing more flush punches.

[Spray_resistant]

Yes.

Jermain Taylor was able to knock Froch down, but Andre Ward couldn't do it, despite landing more flush punches.

Jermain is a hard puncher even if he doesn't have the rep as being one, its just he is a piss poor finisher with no killer instinct.

[Frogs!]

it would be sweet if america got in line with the rest of the world. metric system. no sports except boxing. bidets.

i really love farenheit though. 0 cold, 100 hot. 20 celsius tells me NOTHING.

i think you got it twisted.

0 deg celcius = 32 deg F.

100 deg celcius = 212 deg F.

fahrenheit tells us nothing.

[Evil Abed]

Ottke has a big edge on controversial victories.

Andre has none.

[Kagami Taiga]

lol, why do ppl debate tunney. its honestly worse than debating a wall.

[The Hammer]

lol, why do ppl debate tunney. its honestly worse than debating a wall.

[Tmann400]

Ward. Ottke literally had just about zero power, atleast Ward sits down on his shots and times and really digs. So, Tunney...Do you have respect for Ward now? Froch sure as hell does now.

[The Hammer]

Ward. Ottke literally had just about zero power, atleast Ward sits down on his shots and times and really digs. So, Tunney...Do you have respect for Ward now? Froch sure as hell does now.

Not until he fights and beats a top super middleweight in that boxer's home country.

He should fight Lucian Bute in Montreal or Mikkel Kessler in Denmark, if he wins then he deserves respect.

I can't forget what the referee Jack Reiss did during Ward-Kessler. Mikkel was the champion, that fight should have been in Denmark. There was a Super Six agreement that the referee would be from a neutral country.

[Tmann400]

Not until he fights and beats a top super middleweight in that boxer's home country.

He should fight Lucian Bute in Montreal or Mikkel Kessler in Denmark, if he wins then he deserves respect.

I can't forget what the referee Jack Reiss did during Ward-Kessler. Mikkel was the champion, that fight should have been in Denmark. There was a Super Six agreement that the referee would be from a neutral country.

So, in other words you're giving Ward no credit for dominating Froch, A world class champion? You still are riding on that man?... Ward stood right in front of Froch most of the fight, picked him off and outboxed him...When the fighting went inside, It was perfectly legal. I mean Froch himself said Ward is a great fighter and has superb boxing skills, yet you STILL wont give him credit Tunney, you give people no other reason but to believe it's racially based when you hate on someone this much. The fight was fought in New Jersey, and the officiating was properly done, besides the two judges who gave Froch way to many rounds, and had him leading 3 points after 5 rounds. So who was the one with bias officiating? The English judge was the only one with any credibility, and scored the match properly.

[Hayehammer]

both about the same ! Both cant crack an egg with their punches