Who punches harder: Sven Ottke or Andre Ward?

[The Hammer]

So, in other words you're giving Ward no credit for dominating Froch, A world class champion? You still are riding on that man?... Ward stood right in front of Froch most of the fight, picked him off and outboxed him...When the fighting went inside, It was perfectly legal. I mean Froch himself said Ward is a great fighter and has superb boxing skills, yet you STILL wont give him credit Tunney, you give people no other reason but to believe it's racially based when you hate on someone this much. The fight was fought in New Jersey, and the officiating was properly done, besides the two judges who gave Froch way to many rounds, and had him leading 3 points after 5 rounds. So who was the one with bias officiating? The English judge was the only one with any credibility, and scored the match properly.

I can't forget the de****able smirk on the face of Jack Reiss when Kessler winced in pain, after Ward hit him with the blatently deliberate headbutt that ended the fight.

[Evil Abed]

I can't forget the de****able smirk on the face of Jack Reiss when Kessler winced in pain, after Ward hit him with the blatently deliberate headbutt that ended the fight.

Interesting Avy.

Didn't know you were into that sort of thing.

Good for you, Stay strong Freedom.

I won't judge you.

[The Hammer]

Interesting Avy.

Didn't know you were into that sort of thing.

Good for you, Stay strong Freedom.

I won't judge you.

That was Floyd and 50 Cent.

I better change it before some people get the wrong idea.

[Toney Loc]

BoxRec > RING Magazine in terms of credibility, its essentially a statistics based system VS a biased, promoter owned magazine.

LOL ok bro. Boxrec tells me that Saul Alvarez and K9 Bundrage rank higher than Nonito Donaire P4P.

[Hotsoup]

Ward is only 27 years old, it's amazing what he's done at this point in his career. Lol at the butthurt ts

[Mohammedini]

HW and CW div do suck. A lot

The fact that you say the guy hates European boxers for saying that America has more high lvl fighters and accusing him of being a ****** just shows how sick in the head you are.

We get it you love to discredit American fighters especially african-american ones, but yet you flip out and accuse people of being a racist as soon as they criticize the Klitschko brothers.

Everything is so racial with you...
Seriously get a ****ing life Tunney.

I can't think of a more subjective and biased poster then you

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[New England]

Even if they were really equal in every way, Ward would be better in some peoples' minds because he's an American, right?

There isn't much difference in leaving the US and leaving Germany, except in Germany the crowds are bigger and boxing is watched by a higher percentage of the population.

There were about 5000 fans at last nights' fight. In England, they would have had 20,000.

outside of a couple of divsions (cruiser and HW for example,) the best boxers usually fight here.



andre ward is a much better boxer than sven ottke
unlike ottke, ward has yet to need the ref or judging to bail him out

[The Hammer]

unlike ottke, ward has yet to need the ref or judging to bail him out

His crooked referee Jack Reiss let Ward deliberately headbutt in the Kessler fight. Other shady referees helped him in the Bika and Green fights.

Jack Reiss repeatedly admonished Kessler for throwing legal punches, while allowing Ward to foul as much as he wanted. It was the most blatently crooked refereeing I've ever seen.

[freedom213]

I dont believe Sven Ottke really exists

[The Hammer]

LOL ok bro. Boxrec tells me that Saul Alvarez and K9 Bundrage rank higher than Nonito Donaire P4P.

Why is that grown man in your avatar sticking out his tongue like an insolent small child?

Is he a ******ed person? Serious question.