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  • #51
    Originally posted by strikefury View Post
    If cotto demands testing this time around, I would like to see pac get destroyed.

    Yes, like Pacquiao is slow as Margarito....a non-steroided Pacquiao who fought Marquez last November could beat the Boricua any day of the week....would get his ass handed to him again..period.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
      My post has nothing to with Bob, its strictly financial. Has nothing to do with my feelings about Bob. Cotto's biggest available paydays are against floyd, manny, canelo and in the future Khan. 3 of those fights are possible if Cotto leaves TR.

      You should read the post rather than read too much into it.
      so your saying floyd would fight cotto? a pacman's left over? and if that fight do happen do u honestly think cotto will get a good cut of the pay since he's one of pac's left over and we all know how floyd feels about fighting someones left over. and i dont see a cotto vs khan, only one that have a shot would be canelo which i dont see how cotto can make $$$ off that fight? cotto would make double the money fighting pac again ( not that im in favor for this) compare to fighting khan and canelo combine.
      Last edited by PACsmash; 12-06-2011, 01:04 PM.

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      • #53
        I have high confidence that Cotto wins a rematch.

        In the first fight Miguel was going through that stage of basically training himself and his footwork was horrible, a lot of things have been corrected since then. Miguel went in there IMO believing that he was too big for Pac and allowed himself to get into trading exchanges, that's what lost him the fight at the end of the 4th. When he was using his jab he was looking good.

        I believe at this point he's more mature, composed and would have the right gameplan to win the fight. The Jab is the key.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          I'm not sure why people are screaming for Cotto to leave Top Rank. They made him at least 15 million in his last three fights against pretty easy opponents, with headliners in Las Vegas, MSG and Yankee Stadium.

          Mayweather vs. Cotto would NOT happen if he jumped over to GB because Mayweather's big argument of "pacquiao fights my leftovers" would go out the window. Mayweather has called Cotto a shot fighter in several recent interviews. "Pacquiao beat a shot Cotto who already got beat by Margarito"

          Nobody at GB means anything at 154 except Canelo and they wouldn't match him with Cotto any time soon. They are not going to risk a kid who might have another ten years in the game against a fighter with three or four fights left. Cotto would only be used by GB as a name opponent to build Canelo's resume. GB is saving Canelo for a Mayweather fight, whether it takes place in May or later on.


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          • #55
            With TR historically keeping everthing in house it is very possible a Cotto/Pac 2, Margo/Cotto 3, JCC Jr or even a Clottey 2

            That is the way TR operates.

            I don't think that Floyd would fight Cotto especially when Pac already had beat him so handily

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            • #56
              Originally posted by PACsmash View Post
              so your saying floyd would fight cotto? a pacman's left over? and if that fight do happen do u honestly think cotto will get a good cut of the pay since he's one of pac's left over and we all know how floyd feels about fighting someones left over. and i dont see a cotto vs khan, only one that have a shot would be canelo which i dont see how cotto can make $$$ off that fight? cotto would make double the money fighting pac again ( not that im in favor for this) compare to fighting khan and canelo combine.
              The manny's leftovers thing is floyd poppin ****. Obviously if he can make almost $50 mil he'd fight manny's leftovers in a second. Let's at least try and have a reasonable discussion about the economic realities of the sport.

              The biggest payment cotto receives is from floyd. Period. After that its manny. But that is just 1 fight. What about after that?

              Canelo is filling the staples center now. He and cotto would be huge on ppv. Khan, down the roa, next yearis a big event too. Chavez is already too big and getting bigger it appears. GBP has the better fights at 154 by far as well.

              So financially, at this stage of his career, Cotto has at least 2 huge ppv events if he signed with GBP, while he only has one with TR, and that one likely is at 150 or whatever catchweight Bob deems appropriate.

              Its about Cotto getting paid. He isn't going to MW to win a title and damn sure isn't going back to 147.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                The manny's leftovers thing is floyd poppin ****. Obviously if he can make almost $50 mil he'd fight manny's leftovers in a second. Let's at least try and have a reasonable discussion about the economic realities of the sport.

                The biggest payment cotto receives is from floyd. Period. After that its manny. But that is just 1 fight. What about after that?

                Canelo is filling the staples center now. He and cotto would be huge on ppv. Khan, down the roa, next yearis a big event too. Chavez is already too big and getting bigger it appears. GBP has the better fights at 154 by far as well.

                So financially, at this stage of his career, Cotto has at least 2 huge ppv events if he signed with GBP, while he only has one with TR, and that one likely is at 150 or whatever catchweight Bob deems appropriate.

                Its about Cotto getting paid. He isn't going to MW to win a title and damn sure isn't going back to 147.
                haha i love how things changed.. now all of the sudden the "left over" thing doesnt mean anything LOL.. dont try to act like this wont be a problem. knowing floyd u know damm well this will be a problem. and of course floyd would sign the contract in a heart beat to fight cotto if floyd was gaurantee 50mil but u missed what i asked u, what will cotto get? theres no way floyd would allow cotto to get anything worth mentioning, afterall cotto is pac's left over, cotto is coming off a win over a guy PAC beat already again. also floyd wont make 50mil fighting cotto, he will only make that if its against pac.

                yea floyd would allow cotto to get a BIG share huh. cotto would make more fighting pac again than fighting floyd. the hype if cotto fight pac again will be huge. cotto destroyed marg and has a new trainer its a new and improve cotto. what hype will there be if theres a cotto vs floyd? one guy that didnt wanna fight manny while the other guy got beaten by manny? lol.. and the rest im not even gonna waste my time on but say your dreaming. all that later down the road crap lol. and u do hate bob look u mention his name again LOL!!
                Last edited by PACsmash; 12-06-2011, 01:55 PM.

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                • #58
                  cotto should fight canelo of chavez jr first to see if he could **** with a hungry and fast fighter. he still loses to pac

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by PACsmash View Post
                    haha i love how things changed.. now all of the sudden the "left over" thing doesnt mean anything LOL.. dont try to act like this wont be a problem. knowing floyd u know damm well this will be a problem. and of course floyd would sign the contract in a heart beat to fight cotto if floyd was gaurantee 50mil but u missed what i asked u, what will cotto get? theres no way floyd would allow cotto to get anything worth mentioning, afterall cotto is pac's left over, cotto is coming off a win over a guy PAC beat already again. also floyd wont make 50mil fighting cotto, he will only make that if its against pac.

                    yea floyd would allow cotto to get a BIG share huh. cotto would make more fighting pac again than fighting floyd. the hype if cotto fight pac again will be huge. cotto destroyed marg and has a new trainer its a new and improve cotto. what hype will there be if theres a cotto vs floyd? one guy that didnt wanna fight manny while the other guy got beaten by manny? lol.. and the rest im not even gonna waste my time on but say your dreaming. all that later down the road crap lol. and u do hate bob look u mention his name again LOL!!
                    Cotto vs Floyd may be a bigger money fight than Cotto vs Manny II.......

                    However if Floyd request as much money as he is accustomed to, then in no way will this be Cotto's biggest money fight.

                    I can see that fight doing about 1.3mil, which is barely more than 1.25 that Floyd did with Ortiz.

                    And if Ortiz got about 2.5mil, and Cotto is expected to get a minimum of lets say 10mil, then i dont see how Floyd will agree to such a split, considering itll mean he has to make less than he did against Ortiz, and he wont have any of that.

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                    • #60
                      i think its safe to say floyd asks for a rediculous amount of money when he feels there's a chance he may lose hence makin the negotiations impossible so he wont look as bad! thats my take on how he works. now back to the discussion, cotto i feel will fair alot better against pac this time around. Im not gonna say he will beat him but he does have a better chance. This is coming from a cotto fan but at the same time im realistic about the outcome!

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