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  • #51
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    Either both of you guys are overrating what Judah is capable of doing or underrating what Pac is capable of doing or both.

    I think it's the former though...I would never understand the respect Judah gets by the fan...I don't see it, I just can't understand it.
    Mad Zab, was a good young champion but never developed as a fighter, maybe because of his fragile mentality.

    What were Judah's best wins, because all I can think of are the Spinks and Witter fights.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by them_apples View Post
      I never make the comparison between Marquez and Mayweather. There are plenty of lesser fighters that have given Marquez huge problems. It's obvious Marquez just knows how to fight Manny. I'd never pick floyd by a landslide over Pac, especially considering he only pot shots and does a lot of rope sitting.
      Well, when they fight, that is what's going to happen.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Oxn View Post
        I never understood the hubbub about Kosta Tszyu.

        He just looked so average to me, and i think the punch to Zab was a lucky punch.
        Kostya was a good solid fighter. And, I don't think that was a lucky punch at all. He threw it the attend to land it and do damage with it. And, that's what happened. So luck had nothing to do with it. The thing is Judah is not as good as people made him out to be. So that's why the outcome happened after he land it.

        But, Kostya beating Pac? I mean his right hand was something dangerous. So if he could land it and more than likely he would have, how would Pac handle it? I don't know...But, is Pac not going to be throwing the whole time? How is Kostya going to handle what Pac brings to the table?

        I don't know...I kind of liked Pac in that fight. But, who knows...

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        • #54
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Mad Zab, was a good young champion but never developed as a fighter, maybe because of his fragile mentality.

          What were Judah's best wins, because all I can think of are the Spinks and Witter fights.
          he beat a prime chop chop. the mabuza win was good.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by CONQUERING View Post
            Well, when they fight, that is what's going to happen.
            agreed. i dont see it being close unless pac suddenly becomes a different fighter. i see too may ways for floyd to win that fight, outside, inside, etc.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by RayLeonard82 View Post
              Floyd eventually figured out Zab, but many had Judah leading at the six round mark. So he was in the fight up until the 8th, 9th round on the scorecards before Floyd walked him down and took his heart out.

              Judah was a southpaw with speed. If he could give Floyd some problems than why not Pac? Just curious. Pac hits harder than 2005 Judah and quicker

              Some are making it seem like Floyd just dominates from the start. Im not saying he wouldn't win, just saying it won't be that easy/

              Marquez is used to Pac's style because they had fought twice already. This would be Floyd's first time fighting Pac and he is a southpaw




              This is why I pick Floyd over Pacquiao... Pacquiao fought Marquez 2 times already and he still couldn't adapt to his style even 4 years later at WW...

              On the other hand Floyd found a way to figure Hatton, Oscar, Mosley, Judah etc

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              • #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                Kostya was a good solid fighter. And, I don't think that was a lucky punch at all. He threw it the attend to land it and do damage with it. And, that's what happened. So luck had nothing to do with it. The thing is Judah is not as good as people made him out to be. So that's why the outcome happened after he land it.

                But, Kostya beating Pac? I mean his right hand was something dangerous. So if he could land it and more than likely he would have, how would Pac handle it? I don't know...But, is Pac not going to be throwing the whole time? How is Kostya going to handle what Pac brings to the table?

                I don't know...I kind of liked Pac in that fight. But, who knows...
                if pac and kostya fought in the same time as say when ricky hatton fought kostya, i would agree with you, but prime kostya would beat pac by a significant margin in my opinion. kostya is a solid boxer like you said, manny is flaky against someone with real skills, clearly... and before anyone says he beat cotto, dlh, and marg, with the exception of cotto as a legitimate win for pac, prime DLH steamrolls manny, marg is an overrated punching bag, so is clottey. mosley was shot, prime mosley beats manny. manny is a good ass fighter in our time period, but theres tons of guys that could take him

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  Yes I'm serious, a prime Kostya...What makes him so much superior than Pac...
                  He's not.

                  I'd pick Pac to beat him.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Kostya was a good solid fighter. And, I don't think that was a lucky punch at all. He threw it the attend to land it and do damage with it. And, that's what happened. So luck had nothing to do with it. The thing is Judah is not as good as people made him out to be. So that's why the outcome happened after he land it.

                    But, Kostya beating Pac? I mean his right hand was something dangerous. So if he could land it and more than likely he would have, how would Pac handle it? I don't know...But, is Pac not going to be throwing the whole time? How is Kostya going to handle what Pac brings to the table?

                    I don't know...I kind of liked Pac in that fight. But, who knows...
                    There's no such thing as a lucky punch in Boxing. In my opinion.

                    This is a sport where the objective to to punch your opponent in the face. Landing punches are what you're supposed to do, as is getting out the way.

                    If one lands, whether it was planned or not, it's not lucky.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                      he beat a prime chop chop. the mabuza win was good.
                      I think I was right with the two fighters I named.

                      I think I have watched judah fight about 8 times and most the time he is taking a beating.

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