Both Klitschko's top 10 alltime Heavyweights

[Jay Volcano]

There's no way, the Klitschkos can be considered in TOP 10 all-time heavyweights. Well, it's not their fault that the HW division is poor, but still I wouldn't include them in this top.

[JAB5239]

There's no way, the Klitschkos can be considered in TOP 10 all-time heavyweights. Well, it's not their fault that the HW division is poor, but still I wouldn't include them in this top.

Vitaly doesn't crack the top 20. Wlad is top 15 or 16 with time to move up but I wouldn't count on it with the abysmal state of the division.

[Alx.]

they're both inside of the top 15

[JAB5239]

they're both inside of the top 15

Please explain how Vitaly is inside the top 15.

[Tiozzo]

No thanks. I'll just look at what happened in their head-to-head matchup against each other.

[Tiozzo]

Ross Puritty and Chris Byrd are greater than the Klitschkos because between them they have beaten 2 Klitschkos. Meanwhile, the Klitschkos have beaten no Klitschkos. Therefore, Purrity and Byrd are greater than the Klitschkos. Numbers don't lie.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Meaningless... huh? So numbers don't mean nothing? They don't give a gauge as to how one has performed in his field? Last I checked.. EVERY major sport... the player with the best numbers is regarded as the best that sport has ever seen.

Not neccesarily true. And boxing is different because level of comp plays a significant role. You know this. Stop ignoring it.

[JAB5239]

Ross Puritty and Chris Byrd are greater than the Klitschkos because between them they have beaten 2 Klitschkos. Meanwhile, the Klitschkos have beaten no Klitschkos. Therefore, Purrity and Byrd are greater than the Klitschkos. Numbers don't lie.

Lol, in this thread that makes perfect sense!

[-Lowkey-]

I think Klit fans are relatively insecure when it comes down to the greatness of there fighters I see endless threads full of number crunching to highlight there records telling people how great they are I’m always confused as to whether or not there trying to convince themselves or others.

Records don’t count for much when the competition is at an all time low any Heavyweight era in which the likes of David Haye are described as the most dangerous opponent out there you know its a poor division.

Greatness is not something you can convince people about great fighters are generally excepted as great fighters, the Klits will be remembered as good fighters who dominated the poorest heavyweight division in the history of the sport.

[Superflo777]

Greatness is not something you can convince people about great fighters are generally excepted as great fighters, the Klits will be remembered as good fighters who dominated the poorest heavyweight division in the history of the sport.

Trust me, in 20 or 30 years from now on when talking about the current champion(s) in that era, many people will say "Vitali Klitschko would have slaughtered him", just like they say "A prime Mike Tyson would have killed him" now.