Both Klitschko's top 10 alltime Heavyweights

[Light_Speed]

if they retired today atop the heavyweight landscape... there records combined are 49.5 W's, 2.5 L'S 44.5 ko's = 52 fights 86% ko>>> 92% scorecard ratio>>>95% winning ratio.. Those numbers dwarf most if NOT all of the top 10 greats

Those numbers were against mediocre opposition. The best fighter beat by a Klitschko is Chris ***ing Byrd. Enough said.

[Mohammedini]

Do anyone take into account their huuuuge size advantage over every opponent that they face.
I mean both guys cut weight to get to 240 of next pure muscle, Not to forget they're both 6'6-6'8 against guys who are at average 6'1½, out of shape and/or natural LHW/CW's.
The Klitschkos also has significant reach advantage over all of their opponents(except for Lewis), in top of their huuuuge size advantage over everyone.

Not to mention that this is one of the worst HW divisions in the history of boxing

Do the math and it doesn't take a genius to see why the stats are what they are.
Even with all of this, they still jab their opponents for 10 rounds and go for the KO only when their opponents are next to comatose'd of fatigue.

I saw their documentary and I'm a huge fan of them as people
but to call them the greatest HW's of all time is just ******ed.
They might have the skill but what ATG have they beat?

[jimmy1569]

Trust me, in 20 or 30 years from now on when talking about the current champion(s) in that era, many people will say "Vitali Klitschko would have slaughtered him", just like they say "A prime Mike Tyson would have killed him" now.

The ONLY person who's made logical sense in all these rebuttals.

For the rest of you's.. all the usual lame bs drivel.. pathetic to say the least... The brother's we CAN ALL AGRee ON HAVE the best numbers & have been the most dominant in heavyweight history... all the rest of the bs is oppinion based.. The NUMBERS tell me Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant boxer of alltime... These NUMBERS are factual... what you think about his comp is all OPINIONS.. nUMBERS ,,, ACHIEVEMNENTS UNPRECEDENTED boxing records that most will never even come close to being broken... all factual..

the opinions about the competition is just that. Vita;li Klitschko is the ON;LY fighter in heavyweight boxing his tory NEVER TO BE OUTBOXED & you ALL want to tell me it's the comp's fault? Couldn't one fighter come through? He's faced 45 different fighters....... unless you want to tell ME every single one of them were bums... then your bogus stories hold water.. surely Vitali Faced at LEAST one legitimate fighter by accident on his way to fighting cans... journeymen & never was's..

YOu're all lying through your teeth.. Vitali DESTROYS any fighter that has laced up the gloves that you guys think is greater than him. 45 FIGHTERS being thoroghly out boxed... outslugged.. outstrengthed... outsized.. out thrown.. outlanded... all 45 times & you want to tell me it's luck AS FACE IT guys.... this is what you're telling the ENTIRE forum.. that Vitali Klitschko is the most luckiest fighter in the history of boxing & lady luck is on his side.. Vitali HAS nothing at all to do with how great he is... right guys... it's the competition that dictates how he performs...


NOT the other way around... right guys? ALL of you shou;d all go look in the mirrors.. you'll see something you won't like & that's... semi-racist... biased.. fools.. If Vitali were from the states.. he'd be worshipped just like he is in Germany & The Ukraine.. all i'm saying if you think somebody cvan OUTBOX him from ANY era.. bring it.. 45 have tried & 45 have failed miserably...

[jimmy1569]

He freakin' thoroughly outboxed a top 5 to top 10 alltime great with ease & your excuse is that that alltime great was NOT himself... that he managed to cut his face on his way to being beaten handily.... who's he faced? He faced an alltime great & beat him up... even while he was handicapped.... so the fact that you state he never faced & beat a great fighter is just twisting a surefire victory into a loss because a doctor gave an opinion to stop a fight he was WINNING...... YES WINNING...... WINNING... ILL SAY IT AGAIN WINNING.... MOST ALL OF you CONVENIENTLY FORGET THAT PART & MAKE IT OUT TO LOOK LIKE HE WAS LOSING...... HE WAS WINNING... JUST LIKE HE WAS WINNING IN THE BYRD FIGHT.... i could care less about the bogus end results.. officially he lost those fights... unofficially he won them & in dominating fashion.

[-Lowkey-]

For the rest of you's.. all the usual lame bs drivel.. pathetic to say the least...

For you to say this and then produce the post that followed and every post you made in this thread is hilarious greatness is not measured in numbers otherwise Joe Calzaghe and Marciano would be top 5 Atg fighters they are not in fact far from it.

Anyway im out of here arguing with a fool such as yourself proves one thing there are two fools.

[Jedi Vader]

Those stats only have credence if they're backed up with fighting and defeating ATG's.

So I ask, what illustrious ATG's did the Klits beat in their careers???

I'm still waiting for an answer.

[Axl Rose]

Both Klitschko are great boxers. But its to difficult to say top 10 based on the opponents they have faced.

[Light_Speed]

He freakin' thoroughly outboxed a top 5 to top 10 alltime great with ease & your excuse is that that alltime great was NOT himself... that he managed to cut his face on his way to being beaten handily.... who's he faced? He faced an alltime great & beat him up... even while he was handicapped.... so the fact that you state he never faced & beat a great fighter is just twisting a surefire victory into a loss because a doctor gave an opinion to stop a fight he was WINNING...... YES WINNING...... WINNING... ILL SAY IT AGAIN WINNING.... MOST ALL OF you CONVENIENTLY FORGET THAT PART & MAKE IT OUT TO LOOK LIKE HE WAS LOSING...... HE WAS WINNING... JUST LIKE HE WAS WINNING IN THE BYRD FIGHT.... i could care less about the bogus end results.. officially he lost those fights... unofficially he won them & in dominating fashion.

You're talking about facts and numbers then you turn around and say you don't care about the official results. LMAO

[zcm]

both of them are very good boxers with very good skill level, the problem they have legacy wise is fighters like ali louis holmes etc had fights against top level fighters but the heavyweight division is so poor at the moment tht there isnt any1 on tht level.

[Tiozzo]

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