Both Klitschko's top 10 alltime Heavyweights

[kiDynamite92]

Prime tyson struggled more with Bustard Douglas than Vitali did in his career. Chuck Wepner wasa full time police officer and was ranked number 8 in the world when he fought Ali...Vitali would KO anyone from the 70's probably int he first 6 rounds.

On the night that buster fought Tyson, he would have walked through everyone on vitali's or wlad's record.

[kiDynamite92]

Rocky Marciano won every right he fought, also has one of the highest ko ratios ever. Take that stat into account too buddy.

[ShoulderRoll]

Go compare Lennox's numbers vs Vitali.

No thanks. I'll just look at what happened in their head-to-head matchup against each other.

[240sxdippin]

damn that girl in the polka dots is sexy. who is that?

[jimmy1569]

It's impossible to get an accurate gauge of Wilt's REAL PER because the league didn't keep track of Steals or blocks in his time. Hollinger has constantly stated that PER for players who played before the 1973-1974 season will be incredibly inaccurate. And guess what? Chamberlain retired after the 1972-1973 season.

Career wise, they were equal in PPG. But Wilt shot a higher %, averaged 17 more rebounds and only 1 less assist. And if they kept track of blocks and steals in Wilt's time I can guarantee you he would have a higher PER then Jordan.

I just stated to you.. they weren't equal MJ got me 6 more points every 48 minutes they were both on the court.... How many of those rebounds would be shared by many other players in Rodman.. Hakeem & Shaq's era.. let alone the inflated scoring.. if we put his steals & blocks.. wouldn't be that much different.. Shaq had an even better career Per 48 minute scoring than Wilt did & he had similar FG% ft% .. steals & blocks were slightly better by Wilt due to his advanatges in size.. a 70% less players to compete against for the majority of his career.. so the fact that he got 23 rbounds a game & his PER is lower shows you the efficiency of MJ's game.. if we're talking gaudy 6 or 7 blocks a game & 3 to 4 steals a game... both would be alltime records... then yes he could possibly move ahead... but let's get real we both KNOW WILT is not the greatest shotblocker in history & steals maker as well & we defintely know he's NOT the best scorer.


When it comes down to it, Russell won more titles. Stop trying to act like he won less titles just because he played in less series. He dominated the NBA when he was around. Who cares if it was in a weaker league? You're trying to give the Klits credit for dominating a weak HW division so stop with the double standards.

He might as well have been playing in the ABA.. HIM & wILT.... the league was vastly different.. no 3 pt line for starters.. more chances to get blocks for him & Wilt... you had 70 to 75% less players to compete against... 9 teams as opposed to 30.. & 8 playoff victories get you a ring as opposed to 15 or 16 in Mj's era.. & please save it about... quality instead of quantity... half the superstars in the entire 9 team league was distributed all in the Celtic lineup.. there just weren't great players yet established.. Bill & Wilt were the first.. they discovered the NBA so to speak.. much less basketball & talent was developed .. so whomever was going to standout.. they were going to standout BIGTIME.. nOTHING Russell or Wilt Chambelain did was better than than future parleyers of the center position.. HAKEEM oLAJAWON was more all around than them put together... shaq was just as big .. just as physically imposing.. Mj had to do it gainst much stiffer competition.. his stats are completely valid & authentic... no one has been ABLE to duplicate MJ's dominance despite playing in weaker eras than he did.. if you think Wilt challenges Michael in scoring in Mike's Bulls years... you're out of your mind.. his stats would be in line with Shaq's & Bill Russell would 've won no more than half his rings if he had a similar lineup that Bird had & that's giving him alot of credit as Bird only won 3.

As for the Klitschko's they're facing even bigger & stronger dudes than greats of the past did..... the rules are the same.. everything is the same as it was back then.. same type of opponents... only difference is they're dominating them & past greats had much more parody so the perception is there comp was better.. it wasn't... just they didn't dominate average fighters & therefore elevated all the fighters statuses that faced them..... totally not the same analogy as you were conveying.

[jimmy1569]

Rocky Marciano won every right he fought, also has one of the highest ko ratios ever. Take that stat into account too buddy.

his scorecard ratio is at best 70% fighting even more bums than you say the Klitschko's have faced..... & Vitali destroys Marciano in every intangible & is the closest to undefeated as it gets.

[jimmy1569]

No thanks. I'll just look at what happened in their head-to-head matchup against each other.

If you look at the numbers... you'll have a heart attack as your boy got annihilated in every statistical category during those 6 rds & the inconclusive result also comes with a retirement party that Vitali threw for LL

[ShoulderRoll]

damn that girl in the polka dots is sexy. who is that?

That's Bella Gonzalez, Shane Mosley's girlfriend.

[ShoulderRoll]

If you look at the numbers... you'll have a heart attack as your boy got annihilated in every statistical category during those 6 rds & the inconclusive result also comes with a retirement party that Vitali threw for LL

No matter how you try to spin it the record will always show that Lennox beat Vitali and busted his face open.

[jimmy1569]

No matter how you try to spin it the record will always show that Lennox beat Vitali and busted his face open.

wHO'S spinning.... you listed a factual occurence in terms of Tko Klitschko... i listed factual data as well that happened in the fight....