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  • #71
    Originally posted by boricuajr23 View Post
    The perfect anology is how many punches marquez (the counter puncher) landed on Pacquiao and pacquiao on him. Floyd vs Marquez is counter puncher vs counter puncher which had Marquez doing something he isnt acostumed to and was coming forward, throwing first and trying to cut off the ring. That fight has no meaning in this comparison. If Marquez was to do the same thing he did with Floyd against pacquiao, he wouldnt last 3-4 rounds.

    Just want to let you know, I'm not in favor of Pacquiao here nor do I think he will beat Floyd, I'm just saying that comparing how many punches Pacquiao & Mayweather landed on Marquez is meaningless cuz they are different matchups.
    If you watch the second fight. Marquez took the fight to Pacquiao multiple times especially in the latter half of the fight. He also tried to counter Floyd but wasn't able to because Floyd slipped and ducked his punches. He easily was able to counter Manny because of Manny's lack of defense. Marquez had more success pressuring Manny and countering Manny if you watch that fight closely.

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    • #72
      Johnwoo goin in hard on these fools.


      On Topic: I'm not interested in it as it is. If Pacquiao loses. It will only give further reason to why this fight wouldn't happen. In the case that it did happen. Pac**** and floyd haters will just discredit the win because Pacquiao loss to a bloated lightweight.

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      • #73
        what fans want is irrelevant to floyd.

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        • #74
          Like i said before, JMM even winning a round spells doom for Manny. JMM is capable of catching Manny, but this is not the time for Manny to give the crowd a war, everyone who knows whats up with this fight knows he must completely dominate and/or knock Marquez out.

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          • #75
            LOL you guys are acting like marquez WONT get KTFO lmao

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            • #76
              Don't think JMM will GKTFO. But with his new "Berto" frame, it would not surprise me he gets stopped as early as 6th Rd by the Ref

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              • #77
                If JMM beats Pac at this weight, at that age, after all their history...OH BOY!!! I would love to hear all the annoying twists n turns Pac fans will put on reasons why he lost. That would be crazy!!!

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                • #78
                  If Marquez beats Pacquaio then the Mayweather fight will never happen.

                  I'd still like to see it but it just won't happen.

                  If Marquez beats Pacquaio at this point it will enhance his legacy drastically and would absolutely certify his ATG status.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
                    Pacquiao has been knocked out twice by D fighters, and outboxed by a C fighter. He can definitely be beaten because he has been beaten before.

                    Most people do think Pacquiao lost against Marquez twice.

                    The numbers support Marquez' wins as well as one simply watching both fights. Manny's 3 knockdowns in the first down heavily swayed the judges, but it should not have got him a draw when Marquez practically won the rest of the rounds in the first fight.

                    The second fight was an even better performance by Marquez, with only one knockdown. Regardless, the judges gave Pacquiao a win this time and not even a draw. Which is ridiculous because Marquez boxed better, got knocked down less but lost instead of even getting a draw that time around.

                    We all know why it happened, and it sure wasn't because Pacquiao actually beat or outboxed him. Arum was creating his next star and sometimes there has to be collateral damage. Gift decisions will play a role in that scenario.

                    I don't like Marquez' chances in this upcoming fight ONLY because I don't know how well he's aged. Its 3 years later. Pacquiao is having Marquez come up to WW. Its just not a well made fight for fans who understand what's really happening.

                    Roach, Arum and Pacquiao manipulate EVERY aspect of a fight to get EVERY possible advantage while attempting to seem like they are the "small guy" stepping up to bigger challenges.

                    Of course its bull****, but the boxing brass has been able to sell it to the peasants.
                    Great post and essentially the reason why the fight hasn't taken place as of yet.

                    On topic, I want Pac to comfortably beat Marquez in hope that the summit meeting with him and Floyd will take place.

                    It has to.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by KING DUCK View Post
                      floyd couldn't knock down Marquez

                      Do you fools even watch boxing
                      Originally posted by Everywhere View Post
                      oh lol...yea i was confused for a second...and again it proves that hugh grant doesnt watch boxing...of course, most of us already knew that.
                      Originally posted by johnm View Post
                      The shame is that, like usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
                      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
                      What are you talking about? Floyd DID knock JMM down, didn't you see the second round of their fight? And Floyd landed nearly as many punches on JMM in one fight as Manny landed on JMM in two fights. Do you guys think before you post?
                      Wow, lots of people calling me up on this, when all i was doing was drawing attention to the fact that Floyd landed so many punches yet barely was able to knock bloated JMM down. Whereas Pac knocked him down 3 times with 3 punches nearly.
                      Nothing to boast about really with Floyds one knockdown. Other common opponents did Floyd outland Pac against SSM and DLH as well?
                      When Floyd on the surface does quite well, people are quite quick to let everyone know arent they, and all the ducking and diving and dodging is temporarily forgotten about. How convinient.

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