More rumors on Mayweather/Ortiz PPV buys

[megadeth]

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu..._linares101811

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• No pay-per-view numbers have been announced for the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Victor Ortiz fight, which was held Sept. 17. HBO’s Mark Taffet deferred all questions to the promoters, who have yet to address the issue. The reason is simple: Mayweather-Ortiz didn’t sell as well as promoters (particularly Mayweather) had hoped. They’re waiting as long as possible in an effort to get the figure as high as possible. Multiple sources said Saturday that the fight did more than 1 million but less than the 1.3 million that May’s fight between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley did. If it hits that number, then, and only then, will it be released, I’d guess.



The fact that they even made this statement says how bias they are. Can someone please explain to me when the PPV buys for Pac/Mosley was released? Did I miss something? They are discussing that they are holding off the number to get the figure as high as possible, as not to show that the buys were much less than a fight, THAT AFTER 5 MONTHS, STILL HAS NOT REALEASED THEIR NUMBERS!!! Pac nut huggary at it's finest!!

[ThePrince]

Doesn't mean it was a disappointed. It's hard to a mili buys....Hell it's hard to do above 500k buys. That's why only 2 fighters right now can do above 500k on a consistent basis.

I agree, which is why I find it hard to believe they would work this hard to keep a 1 million+ buy event under wraps. Any time a card does those numbers, promoters and HBO get word out ASAP, within a week. But Mark Taffet is deflecting all questions to promoters who refuse to speak about 1 million+ buys.

Doesn't add up...

[jrosales13]

Did you not read what i wrote above the disappointing bit?

Considering all that went into it, 1.1 million is disappointing.

You have to realize that now that since they have not yet released the numbers, they did lower than expected.

Lower than expected = disappointed....is that difficult to understand?


1.1 million itself is good, but considering the circumstances, it's also disappointing.

And i get the feeling that 1.1 million is the very top estimate....

That's good for floyd mayweather and victor ortiz that they are taking their money to the bank. The investors on the other hand, probably made a loss on this.

Pac-Cotto, disappointed numbers? What about Pac-Hatton? Pac-Oscar? All events where Arum was hoping for more than what the actual numbers were...

But, neither one of them is a F'ing disappointment. You F'ing moron. It's that difficult to understand? Anything around a mili mark means everyone not just two fighters is laughing to the bank.

And, if everyone is making money. Then it's not disappointment at all. Just STFU, fans like you are an F'ing disgrace. Stop being on your knees so damn much for a fighter.

[DoktorSleepless]

Not only that but **** PPV period.

Real money is in sponsors and commercial money on tv anyways.

How could commercials in network tv make more money than PPV buys?

[Toyman]

Pac-Cotto, disappointed numbers? What about Pac-Hatton? Pac-Oscar? All events where Arum was hoping for more than what the actual numbers were...

But, neither one of them is a F'ing disappointment. You F'ing moron. It's that difficult to understand? Anything around a mili mark means everyone not just two fighters is laughing to the bank.

And, if everyone is making money. Then it's not disappointment at all. Just STFU, fans like you are an F'ing disgrace. Stop being on your knees so damn much for a fighter.

Big difference: Pac Cotto , Pac Hatton, Pac Oscar have all been released and confirmed and were regarded as successes.

This fight's numbers have not even been released - there's only one reason they wouldn't be - they were disappointing.

And I highly doubt everyone is making money off this. Mayweather and Ortiz, sure..but as for the rest: bad news is usually not released unless it really has to be

[jrosales13]

Big difference: Pac Cotto , Pac Hatton, Pac Oscar have all been released and confirmed and were regarded as successes.

This fight's numbers have not even been released - there's only one reason they wouldn't be - they were disappointing.

And I highly doubt everyone is making money off this. Mayweather and Ortiz, sure..but as for the rest: bad news is usually not released unless it really has to be

Are you that ******ed? It still did less than what was expected. Which your argument as to why anything around mili for this event is disappointing...You damn right those events were successful. Because, it did around a mili buys.

And, yes any event that does around a mili buys and be highest charged PPV of all time. Then yes everyone is making money...

How much was this event? $70 bucks? How much for HD? Lets keep 70bucks...times that by a million. And, how much do you have? $70 million dollars. Floyd takes home what? 40mil of those 70....Ortiz? What like 15 the most(and I'm pretty sure it's way less than that...That leaves what? 15mil(as the minimum) and you don't think everyone is getting paid? GTFOH

[Phil Ivey]

Did you not read what i wrote above the disappointing bit?

Considering all that went into it, 1.1 million is disappointing.

You have to realize that now that since they have not yet released the numbers, they did lower than expected.

Lower than expected = disappointed....is that difficult to understand?


1.1 million itself is good, but considering the circumstances, it's also disappointing.

And i get the feeling that 1.1 million is the very top estimate....

That's good for floyd mayweather and victor ortiz that they are taking their money to the bank. The investors on the other hand, probably made a loss on this.

Disappointment are you nuts? On a rare occasion we saw this PPV being more expensive than usual and yet it still sold over 1 mill even with a relatively unknown fighter. Therefore under these 'circumstances' it did great, investors lost money? WTF LOL. Just stop using the words "probably" and "feeling" and please keep to the facts.

Look at the original cash cow aka Oscar and see the no. of PPV buys he sold in each fight - they were considered a huge success then and most of them were under 1mil. Granted there are some influctuations if converted today but Mayweather-Ortiz was never a mega fight to begin with.

Pac-Mosley PPV buys has not been confirmed and it was $54.99 if I'm not mistaken and it did according to Arum 1.1-1.3? And this PPV was $69.99 and according to sources it did around 1.1.

So was Pac-Mosley a success or not?

[Toyman]

Are you that ******ed? It still did less than what was expected. Which your argument as to why anything around mili for this event is disappointing...You damn right those events were successful. Because, it did around a mili buys.

And, yes any event that does around a mili buys and be highest charged PPV of all time. Then yes everyone is making money...

How much was this event? $70 bucks? How much for HD? Lets keep 70bucks...times that by a million. And, how much do you have? $70 million dollars. Floyd takes home what? 40mil of those 70....Ortiz? What like 15 the most(and I'm pretty sure it's way less than that...That leaves what? 15mil(as the minimum) and you don't think everyone is getting paid? GTFOH

Lol they were released though.

The numbers for this one have not been released - which one can only conclude means that they are embarassing.

Gee...they got paid...did you forget the part where they also have to pay for all the promotion, venue etc...?????


If you take in $70, but had to pay $100 in order to do so, you made a loss and you don't want people to know..hence you don't release.

1.1 million for an event of this magnitude under the circumstances is lower than I thought it would be...and therefore disappointing.

[JibbaJabber]

all bs... floyd did great numbers with a no name opponent.. haters always want to hate and make up bull****.. smh

[Toyman]

Disappointment are you nuts? On a rare occasion we saw this PPV being more expensive than usual and yet it still sold over 1 mill even with a relatively unknown fighter. Therefore under these 'circumstances' it did great, investors lost money? WTF LOL. Just stop using the words "probably" and "feeling" and please keep to the facts.

Look at the original cash cow aka Oscar and see the no. of PPV buys he sold in each fight - they were considered a huge success then and most of them were under 1mil. Granted there are some influctuations if converted today but Mayweather-Ortiz was never a mega fight to begin with.

You don't know that for sure...numbers have yet to be officially released (if they ever are)



That aside, an event held on a Mexican holiday, with Mexican legends/stars on the undercard......and 1.1 mill? They were clearly aiming to outdo Pacquiao-Mosley 1.3mil and didn't.