GINO ROS' SHOCKER: Victor Ortiz Knocks Out Mayweather

[MrRolltide91]

I don't know if Ortiz is the one but I rewatched Mayweather-Mosley last night and Floyd has slowed down a lot. A lot.

u got ortiz?

[IMDAZED]

Yeah. Noticed that too, watched the full fight about an hour ago. It's going to be close.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't want to call an upset because so many posters that I respect don't see it. And they have strong points. But watching that fight for the umpteenth time - and for the first time in several months - I was shocked to see how much Floyd has slowed down. Even worse because the guy in front of him had slowed down as well. Ortiz is going to be bringing the kind of heat Mayweather hasn't seen since Baldomir/Hatton. And the version of Floyd that fought those two is long gone.

[IMDAZED]

u got ortiz?

See my above post. Who you pickin?

[fdotorres]

what a creative way to suck on floyd's johnson after he wins tonight

[MrRolltide91]

See my above post. Who you pickin?

floyd by ud sd.

i do think that this will be floyd toughest fight in a while.

[deejd]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't want to call an upset because so many posters that I respect don't see it. And they have strong points. But watching that fight for the umpteenth time - and for the first time in several months - I was shocked to see how much Floyd has slowed down. Even worse because the guy in front of him had slowed down as well. Ortiz is going to be bringing the kind of heat Mayweather hasn't seen since Baldomir/Hatton. And the version of Floyd that fought those two is long gone.

That's exactly why I was surprised that the rumors of Mayweather fighting Ortiz as his first fight back were true! Nobody can shi* on Mayweather for this fight, and to be honest, if he wins tomorrow, I think its presence on his resume would, by far, outweigh having Pacquiao on it (also think it's a tougher fight). You can have all the experience in the world, but I still remember Nate Campbell making the statement in his supposed last fight before retiring, that even though his mind was sending the signals to his body to throw when openings were presented, the body just couldn't respond in that tenth of second... and he said that after losing to a journeyman.

You know when you're about to jump in a pool and you're dipping your feet slightly just to see how cold it may be... Mayweather's diving in head-first.

[Dedication]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't want to call an upset because so many posters that I respect don't see it. And they have strong points. But watching that fight for the umpteenth time - and for the first time in several months - I was shocked to see how much Floyd has slowed down. Even worse because the guy in front of him had slowed down as well. Ortiz is going to be bringing the kind of heat Mayweather hasn't seen since Baldomir/Hatton. And the version of Floyd that fought those two is long gone.

Yeah I agree, Ortiz will be a force come fight night. But I've noticed during the build up to this fight, Floyd has stressed that he'll be pressing the action - and has noticeably been improving his upper and lower body strength - factors which weren't relied upon when fighting Baldomir / Hatton. From recent training videos, he actually looks more thicker than leading into the Mosley fight. This in turn, could make Floyd an even more dangerous fighter if you think about it.

[IMDAZED]

That's exactly why I was surprised that the rumors of Mayweather fighting Ortiz as his first fight back were true! Nobody can shi* on Mayweather for this fight, and to be honest, if he wins tomorrow, I think its presence on his resume would, by far, outweigh Pacquiao. You can have all the experience in the world, but I still remember Nate Campbell making the statement in his supposed last fight before retiring, that even though his mind was sending the signals to his body to throw when openings were presented, the body just couldn't respond in that tenth of second... and he said that after losing to a journeyman.

You know when you're about to jump in a pool and you're dipping your feet slightly just to see how cold it may be... Mayweather's diving in head-first.

He gets props from me and I think he's done well since he un-retired. Mosley coming off the Margarito win and now Ortiz following Berto. You're only as good as your last fight. Impressive stuff. Somewhat surprising. I was shocked when he chose Ortiz too. Could be a big mistake. As far as surpassing Manny's resume...I doubt it. If he pulls off a master class of a performance he'll move closer but I believe he needs one more big win to make that case.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't know if Ortiz is the one but I rewatched Mayweather-Mosley last night and Floyd has slowed down a lot. A lot.

I just simply cannot see what you're seeing.

Funnily enough I also rewatched the Mosley fight last night. I have watched that fight atleast 100 times. I actually attended it aswell

And I can't see the decline, where do you see it?

Other than the punch he got caught with, well two, that were clean. Where else do you see decline?

Because as far as I'm aware he was very accurate, lightening fast, and managed to avoid a hell of alot of punches.

And personally don't see a ifference between 09 and 10 Mayweather.

[IMDAZED]

That's exactly why I was surprised that the rumors of Mayweather fighting Ortiz as his first fight back were true! Nobody can shi* on Mayweather for this fight, and to be honest, if he wins tomorrow, I think its presence on his resume would, by far, outweigh having Pacquiao on it (also think it's a tougher fight). You can have all the experience in the world, but I still remember Nate Campbell making the statement in his supposed last fight before retiring, that even though his mind was sending the signals to his body to throw when openings were presented, the body just couldn't respond in that tenth of second... and he said that after losing to a journeyman.

You know when you're about to jump in a pool and you're dipping your feet slightly just to see how cold it may be... Mayweather's diving in head-first.

BTW Davis, where does the 828 come from if I may ask?