GINO ROS' SHOCKER: Victor Ortiz Knocks Out Mayweather

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  • IMDAZED
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    #141
    Originally posted by Dedication
    Yeah I agree, Ortiz will be a force come fight night. But I've noticed during the build up to this fight, Floyd has stressed that he'll be pressing the action - and has noticeably been improving his upper and lower body strength - factors which weren't relied upon when fighting Baldomir / Hatton. From recent training videos, he actually looks more thicker than leading into the Mosley fight. This in turn, could make Floyd an even more dangerous fighter if you think about it.
    Could be. I think he's doing that because he realizes his best chance is to press the action. It's also pretty dangerous. Ortiz is not just strong, he's quick as well.

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      #142
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      He gets props from me and I think he's done well since he un-retired. Mosley coming off the Margarito win and now Ortiz following Berto. You're only as good as your last fight. Impressive stuff. Somewhat surprising. I was shocked when he chose Ortiz too. Could be a big mistake. As far as surpassing Manny's resume...I doubt it. If he pulls off a master class of a performance he'll move closer but I believe he needs one more big win to make that case.
      I thought it was a mistake. I find it rather left field for somebody to come off a 16 month layoff and clearly influenced by Hopkins' achievement, fight a guy coming off his best performance ha! My fault on the resume confusion, I meant that I think Mayweather beating Ortiz would look better on Mayweather's resume than him beating Pacquiao at this point, just because people are on to Arum's movements with Pacquiao and since I happen to believe Ortiz has better boxing skills than Pacquiao, just my opinion though.
      Last edited by deejd; 09-16-2011, 05:05 PM.

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        #143
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Could be. I think he's doing that because he realizes his best chance is to press the action. It's also pretty dangerous. Ortiz is not just strong, he's quick as well.
        One thing I've noticed and I realized this when Ortiz displayed his footwork in some EA Sports commercial or some interview (back when Campbell-Funeka happened)... He doesn't have the best footwork and coupled with the fact that he's not great at fighting going backward. I could be utterly wrong come tomorrow, but his boxing ability laterally and moving back isn't... well...

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          #144
          Originally posted by davis828
          That's exactly why I was surprised that the rumors of Mayweather fighting Ortiz as his first fight back were true! Nobody can shi* on Mayweather for this fight, and to be honest, if he wins tomorrow, I think its presence on his resume would, by far, outweigh having Pacquiao on it (also think it's a tougher fight). You can have all the experience in the world, but I still remember Nate Campbell making the statement in his supposed last fight before retiring, that even though his mind was sending the signals to his body to throw when openings were presented, the body just couldn't respond in that tenth of second... and he said that after losing to a journeyman.

          You know when you're about to jump in a pool and you're dipping your feet slightly just to see how cold it may be... Mayweather's diving in head-first.
          Ha...love it!

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            #145
            Originally posted by davis828
            I thought it was a mistake. I find it rather left field for somebody to come off a 16 month layoff and clearly influenced by Hopkins' achievement, fight a guy coming off his best performance ha! My fault on the resume confusion, I meant that I think Mayweather beating Ortiz would look better on Mayweather's resume than him beating Pacquiao at this point, just because people are on to Arum's movements with Pacquiao and since I happen to believe Ortiz has better boxing skills than Pacquiao, just my opinion though.
            Manny Pacquiao is the biggest and best fight out there for Floyd IMO. A win over him would catapult Floyd into God knows what stratosphere. But Ortiz is the next best thing at 147.

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              #146
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Manny Pacquiao is the biggest and best fight out there for Floyd IMO. A win over him would catapult Floyd into God knows what stratosphere. But Ortiz is the next best thing at 147.
              True, I hear you. I agree from a popularity standpoint, but from a boxing standpoint, I just think Ortiz presents problems that Pacquiao just can't, random drug tested or not.

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                #147
                Originally posted by TintaBoricua
                Ha...love it!
                No bull man, it's crazy!

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by davis828
                  True, I hear you. I agree from a popularity standpoint, but from a boxing standpoint, I just think Ortiz presents problems that Pacquiao just can't, random drug tested or not.
                  It's possible, bud. I guess we'll know on September 18th.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    It's possible, bud. I guess we'll know on September 18th.
                    Indeed we will.

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                      #150
                      Will this fight possibly be a repeat of Pernell Whitaker vs Oscar Dela Hoya? Will it end up as the same outcome?

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