Better resume: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

[The Big Dunn]

But, the same can be said about Floyd. Which you're not doing. You just giving him the benefit of every single doubt.

Which is fine, you can do that. I'm just pointing out.

I can't see how anyone can rank Floyd ahead of Pac in terms of ATG's. But, if you do, so be it.

Jro what questions do you want me to raise? I'm not one overrating the Baldos, Corleys, Zab's, Hernandez, Castillos. Corrales'. Even when we beef about Marg and Baldo all I say is he accomplished more.

Some guys make cotto, marg and clottey (as they did pwill) out to be these dominant ww fighters because floyd didn't fight them.

Guys manny beats are still the same guy after the fight. Opinions on clottey, cotto, hatton, shane, marg didn't change afte manny beat them. Yet after floyd beat them they suddenly went from classy to ashy.

[BoxingGenius27]

2006. ring rankings it was pac, calzaghe, and floyd were the undisputed top 3 by that time.

Let's see what you're talking about Ryann. Post the link. While you're at it, show me where the general public had Pac ranked over Mayweather.

I'll wait....

[Ryannn]

Exactly. Manny had a full career before top rank. Wins, losses, performances good and bad. If we take ALL that into the equation I have no problem. But in debating some guys they only know pac won titles at 20 because they saw Mak or someone else post it, or they went to boxrec etc.

If you saw manny prior to top rank then its hard to argue anyone put him on the same level as floyd, not that he wasn't a good fighter.

i did, and why is it hard to argue?

the question is who has done more in their career.

pacquiao has won 4 lineal titles, came up on top in what people say the golden era of the featherweights, won fights he isn't supposed to win, and the have been the number 1 or 2 guy in the sport for about 5 years now.

how does that not measure up to floyd?

[The Big Dunn]

5% maybe, maybe less.

And that is why we have the crazy threads and endless debates. Some people have only seen "great" pac and "money" mayweather. They didn't see "pretty boy " or pac with murad muhammad.

[BoxingGenius27]

WOW


really dude...be honest, when did you really start following this sport

That's all you got Mak?

Post some sources. Don't try to change the subject and turn this into a you vs me thing. Let's talk boxing with sources/links.

How much you want to bet I can back up what I'm saying before you can?

[Ryannn]

Let's see what you're talking about Ryann. Post the link. While you're at it, show me where the general public had Pac ranked over Mayweather.

I'll wait....

god, you are a thick mother ****er

[jrosales13]

Jro what questions do you want me to raise? I'm not one overrating the Baldos, Corleys, Zab's, Hernandez, Castillos. Corrales'. Even when we beef about Marg and Baldo all I say is he accomplished more.

Some guys make cotto, marg and clottey (as they did pwill) out to be these dominant ww fighters because floyd didn't fight them.

Guys manny beats are still the same guy after the fight. Opinions on clottey, cotto, hatton, shane, marg didn't change afte manny beat them. Yet after floyd beat them they suddenly went from classy to ashy.

Last paragraph is not true at all. They become shot, weight-drained, bums, etc etc.

[brick wall]

Right, after Mayweather retired. You still can't answer how people were saying Pac had the better resume? You're just talking about P4P rankings. If that's the case, then explain why Mayweather was ranked higher than Pac in all P4P polls before Mayweather retired in 2007?

You know why you won't be able to find where the general public thought Pac had the better rusume before 2009? Because it never existed. That's why.

All of a sudden Pac goes on a roll in the last 2 years and we're suppose to forget the other 14 years Mayweather was considered the better fighter by not only the general public, but notable sports writers also. Give me a break FFS!

no wonder floyd was voted fighter of the decade

[The Big Dunn]

i did, and why is it hard to argue?

the question is who has done more in their career.

pacquiao has won 4 lineal titles, came up on top in what people say the golden era of the featherweights, won fights he isn't supposed to win, and the have been the number 1 or 2 guy in the sport for about 5 years now.

how does that not measure up to floyd?

Ryann he got to #1 after floyd retired. He didn't take floyd out of the spot. Floyd won fights he wasn't supposed to either and very convincingly. Floyd moved up, no catchweights, and fought better title holders.

And since you saw manny before top rank you know exactly what I'm talking about.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

That's all you got Mak?

Post some sources. Don't try to change the subject and turn this into a you vs me thing. Let's talk boxing with sources/links.

How much you want to bet I can back up what I'm saying before you can?

here's Saddo's 2006 p4p rankings
http://www.saddo boxing.com/2703-boxing-pound-4-pound-top-10-list.html


removed the space and put in your browser

you can also google it and find Ring Mag's 2006 p4p...afterwards, you can feel free to STFU