Better resume: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

[4Corners]

This is almost debated as often as the whole drug testing thing, right?! Who, in your mind, has the better resume. I will list all notable fighters that are either all-time great, all-time really good, all-time good, and all-time pretty good for each guy. I will also list age and whether or not they were in their prime, and side notes of each fighter. I will list losses and draws, as its only fair when youlook at both. Forget controverial fights, as Mayweather is unbeaten and Pacquiao beat Marquez.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. (41-0, 25 knockouts)
1998: Genaro Hernandez- TKO 8 (38-1-1, age 32) Hadn't lost in 3 years and undefeated at 130. Past prime-still really good.

1998: Angel Manfredy- TKO 2 (25-2-1, age 24) Hadn't lost in over 4 years and coming off beating a prime Arturo Gatti. Prime.

2001: Diego Corrales- TKO 10 (33-0, age 23) Unbeaten. Prime.

2001: Carlos Hernandez- UD (33-2-1, age 30) Hadn't lost in over 4 years. Latter Prime.

2001: Jesus Chavez- TKO 9 (35-1, age 28) Hadn't lost in over 6 years. Latter Prime.

2002: Jose Luis Castillo- UD (45-4-1, age 28) Hadn't lost in 4 years, and coming off wins over Stevie Johnston and Cesar Bazan. Latter Prime.

2002: Jose Luis Castillo- UD (46-5-1, age 28) Immediate rematch. Latter prime.

2003: Phillip N'dou- TKO 7 (31-1, age 26) Hadn't lost in over 5 years. Prime.

2005: Arturo Gatti- TKO 6 (39-6, age 33) Hadn't lost in 3 years, coming off 5 wins. Past prime.

2006: Zab Judah- UD (34-3, age 28) Coming off win over Cory Spinks and loss to Baldomir. Latter prime.

2006: Carlos Baldomir- UD (43-9-6, age 35) Coming off win over Judah and hadn't lost in 8 years. Past prime.

2007: Oscar De La Hoya- SD (38-4, age 34) Coming off loss to Hopkins and than retired for 2 years. Than beat Mayorga in his first fight back. Mayweather went up to 154 lbs. Past Prime.

2007: Ricky Hatton- TKO 10 (43-0, age 29) Unbeaten. Went up to 147 lbs for Mayweather's title. Had fought there before. Coming off wins over Tszyu, Castillo, Collazo, and Urango. Latter prime.

2009: Juan Manuel Marquez- UD (50-4-1, age 36) Went up to 144 lbs. Only loss in 3 years against Pacquiao a year earlier. Past prime-still good.

2010: Shane Mosley- UD (46-5, age 38) Hadn't lost in 3 years, comingg off win over Margarito. Past prime.

2011: Victor Ortiz- ??? (29-2-2, age 24) Hasn't lost in 2 years, coming off win over previously unbeaten Andre Berto. Prime.

Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 knockouts)

1996: Rustico Torrecampo- L KO 3 (11-4-4, age 25) Pacquiao forced to use larger gloves. Prime, but not good.

1999: Medgoen Singsurat- L TKO 3 (18-0, age 21) Unbeaten. Early career, but not good.

2001: Lehlohonolo Ledwaba- KO 6 (33-1-1, age 29) Hadn't lost in 8 years. Latter prime.

2001: Agapito Sanchez- DRAW (31-9-2, age 31) Hadn't lost in 3 years. Latter prime, but not good.

2003: Marco Antonio Barrera- TKO 11 (57-3, age 29) Hadn't lost in 3 years, coming of win over Erik Morales. Latter prime.

2004: Juan Manuel Marquez- DRAW (42-2, age 30) Hadn't lost in 5 years. Latter prime.

2005: Erik Morales- L UD (47-2, age 28) Coming off wins over Carlos Hernandez and Jesus Chavez, and a loss to Barrera. Latter prime.

2006: Erik Morales- TKO 10 (48-3, age 29) Coming off loss to Raheem. Latter prime.

2006: Erik Morales- KO 3 (48-4, age 30) Immediate rematch. Past prime-still good.

2007: Jorge Solis- KO 8 (33-0-2, age 27) Unbeaten. Prime.

2008: Juan Manuel Marquez- SD (48-3-1, age 35) Hadn't lost in 2 years. Coming off win over Barrera and loss to Chris John. Past prime-still good.

2008: David Diaz- TKO 9 (34-1-1, age 32) Hadn't lost in 3 years, coming off win over Morales. Unbeaten at 135. Past prime-still good.

2008: Oscar De La Hoya - TKO 8 (39-5, age 35) Coming off loss to Mayweather and win over Forbes. Oscar went down to 145 lbs. Past prime.

2009: Ricky Hatton- KO 2 (45-1, age 30) Coming off loss to Mayweather, and wins over Malignaggi and Lazcano. Unbeaten at 140. Past prime-still good.

2009: Miguel Cotto- TKO 12 (34-1, age 29) Coming off loss to Margarito, and wins over Jennings and Clottey. Past prime-still really good.

2010: Joshua Clottey- UD (35-3, age 33) Coming off loss to Cotto, and hadn't won in 2 years. Past prime-still good.

2010: Antonio Margarito- UD (38-6, age 32) Coming off loss to Mosley. Past prime.

2011: Shane Mosley- UD (46-1-1, age 39) Coming off loss to mayweather and a draw with Mora. Past prime.

2011: Juan Manuel Marquez- ??? (53-5-1, age 38) Hasn't lost since Mayweather in two years. Going up to 144 lbs. Past prime.

So, who has the better resume???

[Deal With It]

I'm going to have to go with the gentleman one who doesn't KO losses to journeymen.

[jrosales13]

I like Pac overall body of work and resume over Floyd.

IMO Pac is the greater fighter. But, not to get confused with better which Floyd is.

[..WaRSpencE..]

I like Pac overall body of work and resume over Floyd.

IMO Pac is the greater fighter. But, not to get confused with better which Floyd is.

You know looking at those pictures in your avy for years, the feeling of them "possibly" being fake made them bearable, now that he admitted to them it makes me nauseous looking at them, it's disgusting..

[Ryannn]

pac's resume is better and it's hardly debatable. and he'd go down as the greater fighter.

[KillerRightHook]

I like both but I'd favor Pac

[Ryannn]

I'm going to have to go with the gentleman one who doesn't KO losses to journeymen.

being undefeated doesn't mean you have a better resume.

on the contrary, it actually raises questions on the quality of your opponents. the greatest fighters in history have lost by ko

[Deal With It]

being undefeated doesn't mean you have a better resume.

That's not what i implied.

on the contrary, it actually raises questions on the quality of your opponents. the greatest fighters in history have lost by ko

It's not just about losing by KO, or losing period. It's about who you lost to and when you lost to them and the particular circumstances of those losses.

If you look at the records of most of the ATG's. I bet the overwhelming majority of them don't have 2 KO losses to journeymen in the 1st 5 years of their career. One of them being in a TITLE MATCH.

Pac's losses to sub-par opposition + a loss to a shot fighter (Erik Morales) makes his ATG ranking plummet IMHO.

I would probably rank Pac 5th or 6th among his contemporaries who are still currently active and rank as ATGs. And without a doubt below Mayweather.

[jrosales13]

That's not what i implied.



It's not just about losing by KO, or losing period. It's about who you lost to and when you lost to them and the particular circumstances of those losses.

If you look at the records of most of the ATG's. I bet the overwhelming majority of them don't have 2 KO losses to journeymen in the 1st 5 years of their career. One of them being in a TITLE MATCH.

Pac's losses to sub-par opposition + a loss to a shot fighter (Erik Morales) makes his ATG ranking plummet IMHO.

I would probably rank Pac 5th or 6th among his contemporaries who are still currently active and rank as ATGs. And without a doubt below Mayweather.

Interesting the way you look at it. Do you consider Alexis Arguello an ATG? If so around where would you rank him?

[DET. IRONSIDE]

Morales was FAR from shot when he beat Manny.

I have to agree with the TS argument and say overall Manny's resume is better.. His workrate throughout his career is higher.

Floyd will win though.