Lets settle this once and for all! Who really won Ortiz or Peterson?

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  • Evil Abed
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    #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    I've only watched it when it was live and one other time which was a while ago and had Ortiz winning both times so maybe I'll watch it again and see if my opinion differs.

    You got a link?








    I watched it on mute.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
      Rd 1:I thought it was a good rd for both fighters,but Vic was aggressive and land the more effective punches..10-9 rd Ortiz

      Rd 2:Peterson took control went to the body effectively and landed the more effective punches..10-9 rd Peterson

      Rd 3:Ortiz has a big rd get's two KD's in the rd..10-7 rd Ortiz

      Rd 4:Good rd for Peterson,Ortiz stay's active but nothing effective lands..All solid punches this rd(give or take a few)are landed by Peterson..10-9 rd Peterson

      Rd 5:Very close rd both got good work in...Both were very effective landing solid punches..Neither fighter controlled this rd..!10-10 rd even

      6:Peterson landing the Jab and Ortiz is not coming forward and pressing the fight..Peterson is in control of this rd..

      7:Again Peterson is in control of this rd,they are fighting his fight..He is also landing flush more meaningful shots..

      8:Again the fight never felt like Ortiz's fight after rd 3..Peterson punish him on the inside in the clinch and effectively boxed him on the outside..10-9 rd Peterson

      9.More of the same...10-9 rd Peterson

      10.Now we're talking..Ortiz is back and has bad intentions again..He also ate some hard shots in this rd,but did a lot of good work..IMO not enough to win the rd..10-10 even rd..

      There you have it,94-96 Peterson..Now I ask you to watch it one more time..There were a lot of close rds imo..I would not be mad at anyone who scored a rd for Ortiz,but you can't be mad at me either..Other then the 3rd rd there was no clear cut winner in any other rds except for the 1st and the 2end imo...Peterson felt more in control threw out the fight and more in command of what pace the fight would be fought at..Very good close fight,I really wish that fight was 12 rds..But it was one I thought Peterson controlled and dictated threw out(well except for the 3rd)..
      No way I can give the 4th round to Peterson.

      He took a lot of shots and seemed to be recovering that round.

      Thus the 95-95 score.

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      • Shadows
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        #43
        I had it 95-93 Ortiz.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #44
          Originally posted by welcometosaigon
          Ha i removed that math comment after I posted it; it seemed needlessly snarky. Cong**** on the O-Level, even though I literally have no clue what that means.

          And I agree with you that a draw is an acceptable outcome of the fight, and that's what it was.
          No worries, brother. Math genuinely was always a weak point of mine

          An O-Level is an end of school exam, (Presuming only in the UK). They aren't called that anymore, that was a long long time ago. They're called something else now my niece's and nephew's used to **** on about them a few years ago but I can't remember what they are called.

          But yeah, I guess a draw was acceptable but I think it's a thin line.

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          • ablindwatchmakr
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            #45
            Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
            Boxing ability LMFAO,are you serious..What fight did Ortiz really use boxing ability??He is a bull rusher dude nothing more nothing less...You said Ortiz is a far better fighter then Peterson,but yet he had a size advantage and still could not get the victory..Size had everything to do with those KDs and tbh his power at the weight..So for him to have had the size advantage for yrs at the weight and not accomplish anything there he really does not seem like the better fighter bro..I'll agree Ortiz is capable of hurting anyone from 140lb to 147lb but can he take the punching back??Berto was single shots Maidana and Peterson was putting them together which is different then a guy trying to land one monster shot..

            What was the score at the time Maidana stop Ortiz..Because I don't believe Ortiz was winning like that..At least not on my scorecard..I don't remember my score off the head but I know I had it close..

            I watch that fight in Cancun too aww the memories...
            I'm not saying Ortiz is a technical phenom or anything, I'm just saying he could have outboxed and knocked out MAIDANA, a guy who probably can't spell boxing. Ortiz was winning the fight by a wide margin when he lost. The only round he lost was when he quit between rounds. That is it. So all you have against Ortiz is Maidana and Peterson. Two very close fights, one of which was being dominated by Ortiz until the end...C'mon dude.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Shadows
              I had it 95-93 Ortiz.
              Did you have even rounds?

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                #47
                Originally posted by ThePhantom5








                I watched it on mute.
                Man, I need to learn how to use Youtube properly.

                As simple as it seems I must not be doing something properly because I looked up this fight a month or so ago and couldn't find it anywhere.

                Same goes for the Mayweather-Oscar 24-7, couldn't find that either. Then some guy uploaded a segment from it earlier.

                But thanks alot!

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ThePhantom5
                  No way I can give the 4th round to Peterson.

                  He took a lot of shots and seemed to be recovering that round.

                  Thus the 95-95 score.
                  That was my score and reaction rd by rd..Like I said I can't be mad at anyone's scorecard because it was a close fight..But it was not a robbery..I would not mind seeing that fight again tbh..

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                  • Shadows
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ThePhantom5
                    Did you have even rounds?
                    I did not.

                    I haven't watched it since a few days after the fight aired live. I scored it then.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      That was my score and reaction rd by rd..Like I said I can't be mad at anyone's scorecard because it was a close fight..But it was not a robbery..I would not mind seeing that fight again tbh..


                      Check out the 4th round again.

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