Comments Thread For: Arum on Mayweather-Ortiz, Pacquiao-Marquez, More

[Lope Sarreal]

not shameful

POlease apologize.

[Allmenjoi8]

What about Floyd's excuses?

I'm taking time off the sport.
Bob takes all his money away I make my own money.
I never ducked or dodged anybody.
Who, Poochiao?
I'm on vacation right now.
We were never in a second round of negotiations.
We are going to make him "make some sushi rolls and cook some rice."
"We're going to cook him with some cats and dogs."

Those are called insults not excuses. And if you go to fighthype.com and look at the time line and you tell me who's fault it is. But you will not go to fight hype because they do not hate Floyd or any boxer (actually they are kind of upset with Haye and Judah). They even interviewed Ariza and Michael Koncz. May insulted Manny and what was the first thing he said drung the Ortiz press conference? "Manny you are next" so how is that ducking now strangely Manny has said nothing..... Insults and excuses are two different things. He ain't on vacation anymore and the first thing he did was call out Pacaquio.

[amayseng]

i've stated before, floyd needs to take control of his camp and put a gag order on his father and uncle roger. tell them to shut the f-ck up. don king might have been right when he suggested that floyd needs a new circle.

wow, mayweather sr telling pac where he can and cant train???


are you kidding me?


those mayweathers are clueless, they think they run ****, they dont


understand they are bottom feeders in life


just one excuse after the other not to fight pacman...


and floyd will never fight the older sergio martinez at 154 where he can

fight healthy and has won a belt


because sergio will beat him convincingly

[sweetscience18]

BesWorldChamp, it is a little bewildering how you can wander up with a goofy expression on your face and ask, "oh really, you say there were no second negotiations"?

This has been done-to-death, but I will try to quickly get you up to speed.

I will make two posts, the first (this one) will unequivocally prove that Bob Arum's "deadline", was nothing but a scam. It will also provide an accurate timeline of events.

The second post will explain the situation with Ross Greenburg, and also cover why this situation happened.

HERE IS BOB ARUM LYING TO YOU.....Nobody denies that Bob Arum publicly stated on numerous occasions that he personally negotiated a deal with GBP, who forwarded it to Mayweather for approval. He then placed a two week "deadline" on the table, even going to the trouble of putting a count-down timer on the Top Rank website.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

HERE IS BOB ARUM BEING FORCED TO ADMIT IT.....Then, after Bob Arum's conference call, Richard Schaefer immediately released a statement which forced Arum to admit that neither him nor Ross Greenburg had EVER spoken with anyone from GBP.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

THE DEADLINE WAS NOTHING BUT A SCAM !!

Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiation timeline - Part 1

http://fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-1.html

Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiation timeline - Part 2

http://fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-2.html

Arum lied to the media to obtain funding and a date for the Margarito fight.

Dont kick yourself.

Bob Arum has likely been doing this for longer than you have been alive.

Thank you lead ill send youngreen k sometime soon.
I really wasnt trying to sit back and tell this story when I feel everyoneshoukd already of known better.

[BesWorldChamp]

Those are called insults not excuses. And if you go to fighthype.com and look at the time line and you tell me who's fault it is. But you will not go to fight hype because they do not hate Floyd or any boxer (actually they are kind of upset with Haye and Judah). They even interviewed Ariza and Michael Koncz. May insulted Manny and what was the first thing he said drung the Ortiz press conference? "Manny you are next" so how is that ducking now strangely Manny has said nothing..... Insults and excuses are two different things. He ain't on vacation anymore and the first thing he did was call out Pacaquio.

First bold print: More assumptions.

Second bold print: Show me where I said Mayweather was ducking Pacquaio

Response to entire post: You are correct; there are some insults thrown into there. There are, however, some excuses in there: I'm taking time off the sport, I'm on vacation right now, we've never been in negotiations

[BesWorldChamp]

[QUOTE]

No he wasn't going to be taken to court for "lying".

Greenburg said he had been in talks with both sides. Arum said Greenburg had been somewhat of a mediator to the negotiations.

The one who lied was Oscar De la Hoya.

Who during the "2nd round of negotiations" who said that the fight is almost done deal. This was in video. Now I ask why would Oscar(I mentioned him cuz' you mentioned him just now OK) say this if there was no "2nd round of negotiaions"? Then Schafer said Oscar was "misquoted" which is Laughable.

Yes Ellorbe and Schafer talked about "Lie detector test". However, Arum never backed off from having the 2nd round of negotiations.

[B]And, here's the thing Schafer, Ellorbe, Floyd, Oscar, Arum, Roach, Pac all have reasons to lie. Greenburg however, has no horse in this race. He has absolutely no reasons at all to lie. So for Greenburg to come out and say what he said then that's all the proof that any logical person should have that there was some kind of back and forth.

Sweetscience, before you send that green k, you haven't explained this.

[sweetscience18]

[QUOTE=BesWorldChamp;10916383]

Sweetscience, before you send that green k, you haven't explained this.

Yeah actually i did explain it maybe u should keep reading..then when i logged off lead explained it pretty well.

[BesWorldChamp]

[QUOTE=sweetscience18;10916398]

Yeah actually i did explain it maybe u should keep reading..then when i logged off lead explained it pretty well.

The fact remains that Ross Greenburg did not say that he briefly spoke with the camps and couldn't make the fight. He said he was negotiating the fight with a rep. from both camps, trying to carefully make the fight.

The fact remains.

[jbpanama]

Until you show me a positive test for PEDs, you can enjoy Manny dominating his opponents.

The Testing NONSENSE, is FRAUDS way Of PUNKING OUT!!!
Now FRAUD Sr. trying to dictate where Manny TRAINS, The
Maynevers are SCARED ****less of Pac, and AVOIDING the
BEATING Pac would administer!!!

[BesWorldChamp]

The Testing NONSENSE, is FRAUDS way Of PUNKING OUT!!!
Now FRAUD Sr. trying to dictate where Manny TRAINS, The
Maynevers are SCARED ****less of Pac, and AVOIDING the
BEATING Pac would administer!!!

I disagree. As I've made clear in my signature, Olympic-style testing should be mandatory in all boxing bouts.