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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postthe thing about jr is he is a big money fight. and hes beaten his share of ok fighters and i dont think hes a great fighter by any means. but i do not see anything wrong with serg picking jr over quillin, pirog, nor golovkin. quillin is the most impressive of the bunch going by their last fights. but he still has to bring something to the table that makes martinez jump.
martinez fighting barker makes no sense to me. but i would have no issue with him snatching up jr's belt and a career payday. hes done enough to deserve it so i give him the benefit of the doubt. i, by no means, think hes afraid of fighting any of these guys.
You're saying that the fight doesn't make any sense. But, still willing to give him a pass for taking such a fight. While asking these other guys to fight so and so...That doesn't make any sense to me.
Yes it's totally fine for Martinez to look at JCC Jr. Because, it's a money fight and Martinez is what? 36yrs old? However, lets get it clear that this is a money fight and nothing more. JCC Jr is not ready for such a fight maybe never will be, and NO JCC Jr is not more deserving than the likes of Pirog or Golovkin for that matter. Nor is JCC Jr better than Pirog, Golovkin, or Quillin. Hell like I said before I think Rubio might spark him out.
And, you can't say that JCC Jr should "man up" while telling the ones who want to "man up", but yet being ignored, to fight so and so first.
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Originally posted by B.R!ghteous View PostDo you do any research before saying anything? He has the USBO sm belt. It's not a major but he has no control over that. Lucian Bute will not fight him. He has 7 title defenses against absolutely no one. Quillin is a true fighting Middleweight. I'll save you a seat on his bandwagon. I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to tell me who has Barker fought. I thought that's what this thread is about. There is a reason freddi keeps mentioning Quillin. If this was a movie, it would be called foreshadowing. That's giving you a clue on what's going to happen later in the movie.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostYou can't give Martinez a pass for not fighting the likes of Quillin, Pirog nor Golovkin while his next opponent is Barker.
You're saying that the fight doesn't make any sense. But, still willing to give him a pass for taking such a fight. While asking these other guys to fight so and so...That doesn't make any sense to me.
Yes it's totally fine for Martinez to look at JCC Jr. Because, it's a money fight and Martinez is what? 36yrs old? However, lets get it clear that this is a money fight and nothing more. JCC Jr is not ready for such a fight maybe never will be, and NO JCC Jr is not more deserving than the likes of Pirog or Golovkin for that matter. Nor is JCC Jr better than Pirog, Golovkin, or Quillin. Hell like I said before I think Rubio might spark him out.
And, you can't say that JCC Jr should "man up" while telling the ones who want to "man up", but yet being ignored, to fight so and so first.
and i dont think jr should man up or anything. i kno why he wants to avoid martinez. but i do think martinez is entitled to such a fight. i mean seriously martinez has been consistently fighting good comp up until the barker fight, hes exciting and hes been willing to fight just about anyone in the past. hes at the top of the division. why would i side with a bunch of up in comers who want to overstep each other for the top dog? their future is in their hands, not sergios. sergio made his bones. u respect fighters who do what he did, the barker fight notwithstanding.
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postdude, i respect ur interest in an up incoming fighter but dont do that. and i have just about lost all respect for bute, so no need to tell me about him refusal to fight a decent fighter. quillin just has to keep putting in work and he'll gain the respect he deserves. i have nothing against him, just stated the truth
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostYou can't give Martinez a pass for not fighting the likes of Quillin, Pirog nor Golovkin while his next opponent is Barker.
You're saying that the fight doesn't make any sense. But, still willing to give him a pass for taking such a fight. While asking these other guys to fight so and so...That doesn't make any sense to me.
Yes it's totally fine for Martinez to look at JCC Jr. Because, it's a money fight and Martinez is what? 36yrs old? However, lets get it clear that this is a money fight and nothing more. JCC Jr is not ready for such a fight maybe never will be, and NO JCC Jr is not more deserving than the likes of Pirog or Golovkin for that matter. Nor is JCC Jr better than Pirog, Golovkin, or Quillin. Hell like I said before I think Rubio might spark him out.
And, you can't say that JCC Jr should "man up" while telling the ones who want to "man up", but yet being ignored, to fight so and so first.
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Some here might disagree but at this point, Sergio Martinez has the fight to ask for what ever fight he wants. Just like Manny and Mayweather, no matter how much you disagree, he has earned to come out and demand his fight and its surprising that Roach will criticize it considering the crappy choice Manny has taken lately. Oh, Mayweather does it too.
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Originally posted by beatnutts View PostSome here might disagree but at this point, Sergio Martinez has the fight to ask for what ever fight he wants. Just like Manny and Mayweather, no matter how much you disagree, he has earned to come out and demand his fight and its surprising that Roach will criticize it considering the crappy choice Manny has taken lately. Oh, Mayweather does it too.
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Originally posted by beatnutts View PostAnd of course Quillin would be tougher for Martinez but like i said and like it or not, Martinez is a top fighter and he wants his money and that's it. As a boxing fan, i would much rather him fight Quillin because Chavez sucks.
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