Lennox vs Vitali..... The numbers clearly show

[jimmy1569]

by your rationale Deontay Wilder is more dominant than Vitali.

and thats just a plain silly thing to even think about saying. It felt painful just typing it, even as a sarcastic example.

level of competition is everything. fact is Vitali has lost against both the best fighters he faced, and Lewis and Wladimir both have beaten better competition.

Vitali also has one less win over Rahman than Lewis. and, sadly, that version of Rahman would have been the best win of Vitali's career. some would say Sanders, but after all, Rahman knocked out Sanders...

Wrong..... put up DONTAYS numbers in less than 20 fights & i'll show you Vitali's numbers after the same amount of fights.... unless you can somehow make it that dontay has WON ALL his fights by knockout... there's NO discussion & you're just making up stuff on the fly & it's beyond disrespectful & ludicrous to compare donatay against Vitali anyways.. I'm comparing 2 alltime great bigmen who've had the same amount of fights against other competition & one epic fight with each other. They are BOTH 3 TIME BELTHOLDERS. vITALI'S numbers completely destroy Lennox's or ANY other big you can think of as i've MORE than shown here.. including DontaYS.

[RurouniYume]

I swear people just look at the records and not the actual fights. Thin skin beat Vitali, not Lennox. Vitali dominated the greater portion of the fight

[jimmy1569]

you need to see the statistics allways in context. vitali dind't have the opponents lennox had and face to face he lost by way of tko. the scorecards would have only count at the end of the 12th round and vitali didn't make it that far. just deal with it.
Vitali Klitschko is after all a great heavyweight and would be very competitive in any era but he is simply not the best of all time. why cant you just accept it?

Why can't you accept the fact that Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant heavyweight of alltime when all the facts point this Clearly.. There's no discussion here.... we're talking about who was the most dominant heavyweight champion of ALL-time.. let's just forget comp for a second here.. can you CLEARLY see that Vitali has outboxed his foes in a MANNER no other heavyweight has ever done before... the comp is all OPINION based. It can go both ways.. why has NO other fighter dismantled his opponent the way Vitali has FACING the comp Vitali has.

Surely all the alltime greats have faced some comp that's on Vk's resume.... they CERTAINLY didn't do what Vitali did with them & that is get damn near every knockout & clear & succinct shutout on the scoreccards..... lets' hear the excuses as to why he's been the only one to dismantle opponents like this as he's bigger than eveeryone else.. taller.... you guys are so full of baloney & you can't even see it..... you're all programmed to be biased towards him... you're witnessing the Wilt Chamberlain of boxing right before your eyes but are giving him the respect that a Gerry Cooney or Ken Norton requires..

he's been that dominant.. can't explain it any other way & Wilt NEVER GOT penalized for his level of comp back in the day when it was a complete & utter atrocity as to whom he was facing to get his lofty numbers as opposed to the bigs ShaQ was facing years later.

Vitali's comp isn't NEARLY as bad as Wilt's as at least he's facing some of the most physically strong heavyweights of alltime.. you guys all act like Vitali's comp is so much more inferior than all the greats before him. when he's faced fighters that were bigger than the fighters of yesteryear. I don't kn ow what else to say.. you guys are all in denial of how great a fighter Vitali REALLY is... it's a shame..

NO ONE HAS EVER PUT UP THE NUMBERS HE HAS ACROSS THE BOARD IN BOXING HISTORY & YOU JUST BRUSH IT ASIDE WITH THE SAME OLD BORING EXCUSES WHEN IN REALITY VITALI DOES THE EXACT SAME THING IN ANY ERA YOU DEEM GREATER... I'M MORE THAN 100% SURE OF THAT GIVEN WHAT I'VE SEEN.. HE'S LOST TWICE TO FLUKE OCCURENCES WHILE DOMINATING HIS OPPONENTS... YOU WANNA TALK RESUME.. SHOW ME ANYONE WHO HAS HIS & I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT HASN'T BEEN BORN YET.

[BTL]

Question?... People who argue in vitali's favor, who I enjoy... Do you guys wish the fight should have continued after the six?.

[AntDawg]

My bad.. they both faced Shannon Briggs with the difference being Briggs went straight home after his fight with Lewis as opposed to having a 2 week all out paid concussion induced expenses in a hospital suite after facing Vitali. As for better comp... like i said it's a matter of opinion & why is Vitali supposed to be penalized for it when he DIDN'T duck ANY ONE of the supposed better opponents Lewis faced... ummmmm.

You forgot to mention Lewis fought a prime Briggs and stopped him while Vitali went 12 rounds with a old past prime Briggs.

[jimmy1569]

since Vitali fans love stats so much, Ill throw some fun ones out there. Only 6 of Vitali's wins in his career were over high level opponents(or top ten competiton)

that means only 14% of Vitali's wins are worth noting.
an that when facing top ten competition, Vitali only has a 75% winning percentage.

of those 6 notable wins, 5 of them were at least 10lbs above their optimal fighting weight.
Kirk Johnson, weighed 260, best at around 235.
Corrie Sanders, weighed 235, best at 225
Sam Peter, weighed 253, best at 243
Chris Arreola, weighed 251, best at 230-240
Odlanier Solis, weighed 246, best at 230s(should be even lower).

at least Gomez came in decent enough shape, but then again, he was a former Cruiserweight.

I could come back with the MORE poundage you fight.. the harder it is to ko that fighter..... but in all honesty.. you fail to see a trend here that started with Lewis.... these opponents all saw how Lewis fared against Vitali & escaped being ktfo.. they all assumed they can use the same strategy.. they sacrificed speed for power. what they didn't bank on is that Vitali is much more powerful than them even if they weigh the same as or more than him. Vitali IS SO PSYCOLOGICALLY intimidating with his size & strength that other fighters don't want to be overpowered coming in much lighter than him. That's the real reason they DON'T shed those lbs. Vitali is so big physically that he intimidates other fighters.. I guarantee you Lennox gaINED 5 to 10 lbs right after he found out who is opponent was 2 weeks before the fight. It was a strategic move to be bigger & Vitali never got credit for it.. instead he got discredited because LENNOX was at his highest weight of his career.. ever stop & think that he was facing the most physically imposing opponent of his career.........

[RlCKY]

Because, as we all know records mean everything in boxing

[jimmy1569]

Question?... People who argue in vitali's favor, who I enjoy... Do you guys wish the fight should have continued after the six?.

This fight was a war... it was a battle of atrition.. power & stamina.. it DID NOT need to be decided by a doctor.. worst case scenario the ref STOPS the fight during the action or the corner throws in the towel.... none of that occured because Vitali was defending himself at the time of stoppage & offending as well... exchanging punch for punch... landing & throwing more punches than Lennox in every single rd.. the cut was being tended to & while it was bad & hindering Vk a bit.. it wasn't rendering him helpless for such a decision to have taken place & just HANDING over the W to Lennox on a platter when he was CLEARLY & UTTERLY losing the fight & EVERYONE.. EVEN the Lewis adavocates KNOW he was losing the fight.

They had already fought that far & the cut was just as grotesque as the previous rd. Vitali was fighting for respect & honor as his NAME was completely trashed because he quit in a fight he was dominating.... he wasn't going to be denied that night & some ringside dr took that away.. for all we know it'd be Lewis in the following rd doing a Wlad/Brewster impersonation & could've been completely spent as he gave it his all in that final rd to put Vk away.. we'll never know whaT MIGHT've transpired but the Tko VERdict rendered could easily have been flipped around as the line between winning & losing according to the boxing rules was beyond thin.

[edgarg]

Lewis stopped vitali head to head and has a better resume..vitalis NEVER BEEN A UNIFIED CHAMP.lewis has

As you well know that is a faked up photo. You always drag it out. Maybe you "redid" it because this time you've forgotten something. You've added lots of extra gore and bruise, but forgot all about the cut over the eyebrow, which you LEFT OUT. In the picture the eyebrow is pristine, but the lower eyelid has some grotesquerie attached to it, which was NOT THERE during nor after the fight. You are a fraud.

Maybe your name might be HAYE...... You certainly are trying to make HAY anyway.

And you take up far too much futile space on these pages each time you "exhibit".

You LEFT OUT the cut over the eyebrow. AND, as even YOU must admit, his LEFT EYE is WIDE OPEN. There was NO reason for the imbecile doctor to sdtop the fight because Klitschko COULDN'T SEE frm his left eye, because the EYELID NERVES were CUT, previngting it from opening.

THAT, in case you don't know (and there seems an awful lot that you don't now) was the reason the dr gave for stopping the fight.......that is....his FIRST reason.

He gave a couple more later, each just as mendacious (look it up).

[edgarg]

You is jus plain dumb! Everybody done know dat Vitali be fighting at a time when there be no real competition. Look what happen when he fight somebody of Lennox's era (in thr form of Lennox himself) he done near get his eye pull straight outta his head! Geddit? Nuff said, now clear off outta here - yu hear?

I don't know whether to call you DUMBO or ILLITERO, (do you actually talk like that or just write like that) but just have a look at the "famous" picture that our friend Larry is so much in love with, even including the Hollywood style makeup additions. You can see that his EYE that you say was nearly pulled out of his head, is in it's NORMAL PLACE........

Let me give you a little info. No punch, with or without a glove, can "tear" or knock out an eye, unless maybe, it's a glass eye........ Your own head should tell you this without me. So why exaggerate??

So can't you quit the grotesque lies and exaggerations, and be truthful for a change. I'm not asking this in an aggressive way, just a sportsman's way.