Infamous emails sent from Team Pacquiao to Team mayweather

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  • ThePrince
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    #61
    Originally posted by vincebond
    This whole statement makes the defamation lawsuit useless. What has Manny lost since Dec. 2009 when he filed the suit? Nothing. People actually rallied behind him after the accusations.
    learn the difference between punitive and compensatory damages.

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    • AFighter4U
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      #62
      Originally posted by Eastbay Giant
      Tim Smith has yet to recant his story, and has been quiet since. This tells me he's sticking by it, and is most likely with representation. That's all I have left to say on the email issue.
      i have to say that i'm quite surprised that both Tim Smith and Teddy Atlas haven't been called out more often for those emails.

      they could easily show the emails (if they actually had it) without revealing their sources.

      so in short, unless the emails surface, they in effect, don't exist.

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      • Eastbay Giant
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        #63
        Originally posted by AFighter4U
        i have to say that i'm quite surprised that both Tim Smith and Teddy Atlas haven't been called out more often for those emails.

        they could easily show the emails (if they actually had it) without revealing their sources.

        so in short, unless the emails surface, they in effect, don't exist.
        In this situation, the fans and court of public opinion doesn't matter. Pacquiao filed a law suit, and it's a legal matter now. Releasing the email to the public for debate, help Pacquiao establish intent to slander, because the act alone shows pre-meditation...get it?

        Now...

        Presenting it to the judge establishes reasonable doubt in Pacquiao's case, and serves as a defensive response to the suit.

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        • AFighter4U
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          #64
          Originally posted by Eastbay Giant
          In this situation, the fans and court of public opinion doesn't matter. Pacquiao filed a law suit, and it's a legal matter now. Releasing the email to the public for debate, help Pacquiao establish intent to slander, because the act alone shows pre-meditation...get it?

          Now...

          Presenting it to the judge establishes reasonable doubt in Pacquiao's case, and serves as a defensive response to the suit.
          err... it isn't slander if the emails come from Pac camp themselves. how can it be slander when you are basically quoting the said person? you just have to prove that they guy said what you said he said.

          slander is when you accuse someone without proof. the emails are proof.

          it is to mr. smith and Atlas' benefit if they could produce the emails as proof of their statements. otherwise, all that stuff they said was slander.

          and they don't need to wait to be sued to produce those emails. as a journalist, its mr. smiths responsibility to produce proof of his allegations.

          so far, he has not.
          Last edited by AFighter4U; 06-27-2011, 02:43 AM.

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          • Eastbay Giant
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            #65
            Originally posted by AFighter4U
            err... it isn't slander if the emails come from Pac camp themselves. how can it be slander when you are basically quoting the said person? you just have to prove that they guy said what you said he said.

            slander is when you accuse someone without proof. the emails are proof.

            it is to mr. smith and Atlas' benefit if they could produce the emails as proof of their statements. otherwise, all that stuff they said was slander.
            Dude, I really don't care. Manny's lawsuit against Floyd is another reason why the fight isn't happening. Believe what you want to believe, but understand our opinions doesn't matter in the court of law. The case is upon Manny to prove he was slandered, defamed, whatever you choose to call it. Maybe you should watch a couple of episodes of Peoples Court, to get a general idea of how the system works.

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            • JOM'S
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              #66
              its has been a long time and the email was never shown to the public, probably its not authenticated, anyway if that email existed it should have been speicmen as evidence in court ...

              but like I said unauthenticated and most probably untrue ...

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              • Eastbay Giant
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                #67
                Originally posted by JOM'S
                its has been a long time and the email was never shown to the public, probably its not authenticated, anyway if that email existed it should have been speicmen as evidence in court ...

                but like I said unauthenticated and most probably untrue ...
                That's why you don't release it, because if it's been authenticated it should be submitted as evidence when the time comes. The bet Manny faces is, whether or not it exist and how far with this case is he willing to go to find out.

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                • tangalog2200
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AFighter4U
                  err... it isn't slander if the emails come from Pac camp themselves. how can it be slander when you are basically quoting the said person? you just have to prove that they guy said what you said he said.

                  slander is when you accuse someone without proof. the emails are proof.

                  it is to mr. smith and Atlas' benefit if they could produce the emails as proof of their statements. otherwise, all that stuff they said was slander.

                  and they don't need to wait to be sued to produce those emails. as a journalist, its mr. smiths responsibility to produce proof of his allegations.

                  so far, he has not.
                  well, if they do have those e-mails,all pbf has to do are to include these on his defense and/or deposition as exhibits a, b & c etc.....

                  the people who have these e-mails could be compelled to produce these e-mails lest they be hit with withholding evidences and obstruction of justice...

                  pbf not submitting the deposition is a very big indicator they don't have any proof...

                  gbp making amends to pac also is indicative of the above.....

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                  • AFighter4U
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Eastbay Giant
                    Dude, I really don't care. Manny's lawsuit against Floyd is another reason why the fight isn't happening. Believe what you want to believe, but understand our opinions doesn't matter in the court of law. The case is upon Manny to prove he was slandered, defamed, whatever you choose to call it. Maybe you should watch a couple of episodes of Peoples Court, to get a general idea of how the system works.

                    manny's lawsuit would be dropped quite easily if the mayweathers would simply stop blatantly accusing him and issue a public apology, just like what Dela hoya and golden boy did.

                    dela hoya apologized, and the case against him was dropped. it is that easy.

                    i was never talking about the court case in the first place.

                    i merely pointed out that basically, mr. smith and teddy atlas accused pac's camp of sending incriminating emails...

                    without producing such emails.

                    last time i checked, legitimate journalists are supposed to have proof and/or evidence to back up their claims, ESPECIALLY when it involves a person's reputation.

                    in that regard, Mr. Smith and Atlas failed miserably.

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                    • junior gong
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by J Dubb II 330
                      Just posted on fighthype, mayweather mail. Just making a topic, posting a story
                      Not really, you are trying to stir the **** pot by posting a story about emails that probably dont exist, and furthermore this isnt a new story as its been done before several times (which you would know). You know exactly what you are doing. you are being a ***** and doing what *****'s do.

                      Nothing to see here.

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