more impressive roy goin from 154 to hw..or manny going from fly weight to ww

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Two of my favorites. Roy was a freak of nature and his accomplishments get tarnished by what he's doing today. 154 to HW champ is an insane! Pac's close but lately he's been taking it easy (probably to avoid ending up like Roy). I give the edge to Roy.

[Mr. Invincible]

I'm not even much of a Pac fan but this one is clearly in Pac's favor. You either have to be black or pro american to have a different opinion.

Ok, if that is so, you must be latin/asian or anti-American to have your opinion. Now you can go back into your hole.

Just because you were not a boxing fan or are just too young to understand Roy's prime greatness doesn't diminish his accomplishments.

You just keep thinking Roy has only been this 40+ y/o that get's badly ko'd every other fight, ok.

[sammiza567]

rjj by a country mile. besides manny hasnt legit won a title since what 140? cotto and marg were at catchweights.

[Mr. Invincible]

Oh, and btw, I don't think there's enough anti-pac members on here to be able to allow Roy the edge on this poll. By the latest tally, Roy's winning. So, there must be more members who agree with me than you.

[Mr. Invincible]

Lol's @ Manny P even voting for Roy.

Lol's @ Manny P even voting for Roy.

[REDRUM619]

heres the thing when manny started at 1o6 he was a malnourished boy who still had a lot of growing to do roy jones was a grown man already and the diference in power you face from jmw to heavyweight is greater that of being in th 106 division to the welterweight division imo both are grade acomplishmentns though i rank roys higher

[ChampBox@PR]

Larryx you suck!!!!

Manny going from 106 to 150 is bigger than Roy from 154 to 201

[Larry the boss]

Larryx you suck!!!!

Manny going from 106 to 150 is bigger than Roy from 154 to 201

so i suck cause i asked a question??i didnt pass judgement at all in this thread..but i guess questioning manny is grounds to get insulted...smh...and do the math son

201-154=47

150-106=44

how is that bigger???do they teach math where you're from son??

[jrosales13]

Very, very good point.

Another good thing to mention is that Roy has span the weight classes from 155-205. That's 50 lbs.

Pac has went from 106 to 154. Thats 48 lbs and there many more weight classes between that climb at the lower weights.

I think beating the best @ 160 and 168 and then moving up and dominating the LHW division and then eventually winning a HW title against a man who naturally outweighs you by 40 lbs legitimately is a better accomplishment.

But that's just me.

When did Roy beat the best at 160?

[jrosales13]

I agree. Ruiz was a better opponent that Margarito, for instance. And even after Jones had moved up, he was still outweighed by Ruiz by over 30lbs at the weigh-in.

I won't disagree that Ruiz was a better opponent than that version of Margarito. But, I really don't count Pac as a JMW, I count him as a WW, Pac never fought at the full JMW limit. So I think Ruiz win and the Cotto win is a better comparison. And, is Ruiz a better fighter than what that Cotto was?