more impressive roy goin from 154 to hw..or manny going from fly weight to ww

[Khalid X]

how can pac be the man at flyweight?...maybe coz he beat the man who beat the man?......learn your **** man,,start off with what 'lineal" means..ok?....lol

Bro I specifically remember a ton of writers calling Manny an elite Flyweight back then due to his talent, relentless style, speed and power.

This was common knowledge back then, but whatever.....

[puga]

Bro I specifically remember a ton of writers calling Manny an elite Flyweight back then due to his talent, relentless style, speed and power.

This was common knowledge back then, but whatever.....

youre wrong ..he was unknown then beating nothing but bums.....the only reason why he became a 112 lineal cahmp is becuase he was overrtaed.....youre wrong man, youre wrong.........

[jrosales13]

youre wrong ..he was unknown then beating nothing but bums.....the only reason why he became a 112 lineal cahmp is becuase he was overrtaed.....youre wrong man, youre wrong.........

Are you calling Sasakul a bum?

[puga]

Are you calling Sasakul a bum?

damn man, when your boys do it, it's being sarcastic....when i do it, im serious.........jro, i was being SAR- CAS- TIC...im sorry for not making that clear!.....lol

[southcentralcar]

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c'mmon man.. polls including pacquiao have so sense round here cuz of *******s..

[jjbj2]

youre wrong ..he was unknown then beating nothing but bums.....the only reason why he became a 112 lineal cahmp is becuase he was overrtaed.....youre wrong man, youre wrong.........

Come on, man. He got lucky beating the Lineal Champion of the Flyweight division. And his knockout of Ricky Hatton at the Junior Welterweight division is not really that impressive. So, that is another Lineal Champion title that doesn't count.

Now, let us compare it Roy Jones:

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Middleweight fighter Bernard Hopkins at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Welterweight/Middleweight fighter Felix Trinidad at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a legitimate Light Heavyweight champion Antonio Tarver at 175 lbs one the first of the trilogy but lost the other two by knockout and unanimous decision.

Roy Jones Jr. fought another legitimate Light Heavyweight contender/champion Glen Johnson lost by way of knockout.

I mean if I keep breaking it down to the ground then I would say Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter by a mile even if I took away some of hi accomplishments like his lineal titles at Flyweight and Junior Welterweight. And I had to take away Manny's accomplishment in the Super Bantamweight division too in order to equalize to Roy Jones Jr. record of accomplishments.

I think the best fights to happen would be at Super Bantamweight between Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Erik Morales. They were all beasts in those divisions.

[kadyo's]

Come on, man. He got lucky beating the Lineal Champion of the Flyweight division. And his knockout of Ricky Hatton at the Junior Welterweight division is not really that impressive. So, that is another Lineal Champion title that doesn't count.

Now, let us compare it Roy Jones:

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Middleweight fighter Bernard Hopkins at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Welterweight/Middleweight fighter Felix Trinidad at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a legitimate Light Heavyweight champion Antonio Tarver at 175 lbs one the first of the trilogy but lost the other two by knockout and unanimous decision.

Roy Jones Jr. fought another legitimate Light Heavyweight contender/champion Glen Johnson lost by way of knockout.

I mean if I keep breaking it down to the ground then I would say Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter by a mile even if I took away some of hi accomplishments like his lineal titles at Flyweight and Junior Welterweight. And I had to take away Manny's accomplishment in the Super Bantamweight division too in order to equalize to Roy Jones Jr. record of accomplishments.

I think the best fights to happen would be at Super Bantamweight between Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Erik Morales. They were all beasts in those divisions.

[puga]

Come on, man. He got lucky beating the Lineal Champion of the Flyweight division. And his knockout of Ricky Hatton at the Junior Welterweight division is not really that impressive. So, that is another Lineal Champion title that doesn't count.

Now, let us compare it Roy Jones:

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Middleweight fighter Bernard Hopkins at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Welterweight/Middleweight fighter Felix Trinidad at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a legitimate Light Heavyweight champion Antonio Tarver at 175 lbs one the first of the trilogy but lost the other two by knockout and unanimous decision.

Roy Jones Jr. fought another legitimate Light Heavyweight contender/champion Glen Johnson lost by way of knockout.

I mean if I keep breaking it down to the ground then I would say Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter by a mile even if I took away some of hi accomplishments like his lineal titles at Flyweight and Junior Welterweight. And I had to take away Manny's accomplishment in the Super Bantamweight division too in order to equalize to Roy Jones Jr. record of accomplishments.

I think the best fights to happen would be at Super Bantamweight between Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Erik Morales. They were all beasts in those divisions.

yeah , he got lucky......you hear this, people...pac just got lucky......cross your fingers fighters , coz you might just get lucky to be a 4 div lineal champion.......

[seanthetaxi]

Yes, but you are neglecting a MAJOR point, and one which I think is the crux of the whole discussion. It has been mentioned on this subject only by one other than myself, which I saw after I had written in.

It is that Manny P, at 106 lbs (which he sustained only for his debut fight) was just a skinny underfed teenager, whose weight progress could be seen as he grew a little older. (and earned money for better food) Jones was at least an almost fully grown man at whatever age he had his first fight. I don't even have to bother checking in Boxrec.

THIS, is the vital point, not "lineal" champs, or who went up in weight more than the other.

Cogent argument! I agree, pacquiao started boxing in his teenage years when there's a rapid physical growth, it may justify his success in climbing weights in lower divisions. However I disagree of the notion- had he had money for better food he would have not weighed 106-112. Pinoys are naturally slim during adolescent stage, if pacquiao was malnourished/underfed how did he got the strength and stamina to compete in a combat sport? Also there were stories that in his childhood he was already working like a horse to support his family.

[jrosales13]

Come on, man. He got lucky beating the Lineal Champion of the Flyweight division. And his knockout of Ricky Hatton at the Junior Welterweight division is not really that impressive. So, that is another Lineal Champion title that doesn't count.

Now, let us compare it Roy Jones:

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Middleweight fighter Bernard Hopkins at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a career Welterweight/Middleweight fighter Felix Trinidad at the 170 lbs a two division jump and at an old age too.

Roy Jones Jr. fought a legitimate Light Heavyweight champion Antonio Tarver at 175 lbs one the first of the trilogy but lost the other two by knockout and unanimous decision.

Roy Jones Jr. fought another legitimate Light Heavyweight contender/champion Glen Johnson lost by way of knockout.

I mean if I keep breaking it down to the ground then I would say Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter by a mile even if I took away some of hi accomplishments like his lineal titles at Flyweight and Junior Welterweight. And I had to take away Manny's accomplishment in the Super Bantamweight division too in order to equalize to Roy Jones Jr. record of accomplishments.

I think the best fights to happen would be at Super Bantamweight between Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Erik Morales. They were all beasts in those divisions.

Larry in your honest opinion. How idiotic do you think this poster is? Ever you have to admit this post is F'ing ******ed? I mean read the whole thing.