if Pac gets credit for Marquez then so should Mayweather

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  • TintaBoricua
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    #61
    Call me crazy, but I think JMM has a better chance at beating Pacquiao than Clottey or Margarito ever did.

    And if not, then at least two things:

    1. The fight will have action.
    2. JMM was more deserving of a Pacquiao fight than either Clottey, Margarito, or Shane.

    Márquez is actually skilled. The only problem is the weight, but the weight issue is not that big. It's not like Márquez is jumping up to junior middleweight or something insane. He'll be out of his element a little, but he will give Pacquiao hell before/if he goes down. I just can't rule out Márquez being wiped out by Pacquiao.

    Two huge factors going into this fight:

    1. Márquez is an aggressive counter-puncher. Contrary to Floyd, Márquez is not the kind of fighter who potshots and moves out quickly. He is a master counterpuncher and usually comes away with the better of exchanges, but that's exactly the problem. He is a counter-puncher who gets hit. Again, terrific counter-punching, but he gets hit.

    2. Márquez starts out cold and tends to be vulnerable to left hands/hooks. In both of his fights with Pacquiao, he was dropped early, in his fight with Juan Díaz, he was stunned briefly in the second round, and in his fight with Katsidis, he was also dropped early. These moments of vulnerability were all triggered by left hands. Three of which from left hooks. Oh, I forgot to mention: Mayweather dropped him early, too (2nd round) with...guess what? A left hook.

    Márquez has to hope he can make it past the initial rounds and find his rhythm. Whether he'll win or not, I don't know. I just think it's ridiculous how people are completely dismissing him.

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    • Steak
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      #62
      No, neither of them should get much credit at all for beating Marquez at 147. Its not a good weight for him at all, wheras Mayweather and Pacquiao are very comfortable and naturally better there.

      not to mention Pacquiao is fighting an older Marquez than Mayweather.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #63
        Originally posted by RajahBell
        If you dig up the old threads and posts in this site, that's one of the biggest complaints for the fight before the "weigh in". When Floyd failed to make the contractual weight is when he really got hammered for the weight difference. Even before the fight was made, they were already hating on Floyd.
        No ****, welcome to 2005.

        How are you going to discredit a fight for a bad clash of styles? Clash have styles have existed from the beginning of time there have been endless bad style match-ups.

        It's like saying anyone who doesn't trade with a bralwer gets no credit for it because if he boxs him to a descion it's a bad clash of styles.

        Anyone who doesn't let an outside boxer stay on the outside and outworks him to a decsion oesn't fet credit because it was a bad style match up for the boxer.

        It's ridiculous.

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        • Jimbo16031992
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          #64
          Marquez deserves credit.

          Both Mayweather and Pacquiao deserve s**t for the weight.

          Both Mayweather and Pacquiao will deserve credit if Pacquiao also succeeds in making Marquez look ordinary.

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #65
            Originally posted by Jimbo16031992
            Marquez deserves credit.

            Both Mayweather and Pacquiao deserve s**t for the weight.

            Both Mayweather and Pacquiao will deserve credit if Pacquiao also succeeds in making Marquez look ordinary.
            im sorry, you dont deserve credit for doing what every other fighter in your weight class would do in going after the money fight. i dont agree. jmm would have fought both fighters because of what they bought to the table, not because he was trying to prove some point.

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            • mathed
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              #66
              They should be fighting at 135 or a catchweight of 138. I still like the idea of them fighting one more time to settle it for good. I just hope if JMM loses, that he won't take a bad beatdown, he is one of my favorite boxers.

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                #67
                Originally posted by mathed
                They should be fighting at 135 or a catchweight of 138. I still like the idea of them fighting one more time to settle it for good. I just hope if JMM loses, that he won't take a bad beatdown, he is one of my favorite boxers.
                It wouldn't make sense for Pac to come down to 135 after not fighting there for years. Really, who would do that?

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                • eklok
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                  #68
                  i just want pac to beat this cholo , you can keep your credit , no one cares

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                  • BuckToothed
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Hi-Dro
                    for beating Marquez. Both fights are designated at a catch weight of 144. The same bloated and fat Marquez who fought Mayweather will be fighting Pacquiao on November. Nevertheless, people on hurrr are hyping this fight up as legitimate, as a result of their body composition, which is the same, and the fact that Marquez has been the only one to give Pac problems in a long time.

                    So how could you talk **** about Mayweather fighting Marquez, yet turn around and praise Pac fighting Marquez? It's complete bull****. So if you're hyping this fight up as legit, and good for Pac then you best give Mayweather his props for beating Marquez up in hurrr

                    Personally, I think Mayweather fighting Marquez was BS.
                    Marquez is a Light weight, and not a WW. Pac should fight Mayweather and be like bia bia
                    Both were contracted at 144, but Floyd showed up at 146. 2 lbs over.
                    The same 2 lbs that every Floyd fan claims that drained Cotto for coming in at 145 vs 147.

                    If Floyd gets credit, then Manny gets credit for Cotto. LOL. ****** arguments.

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                    • Hi-Dro
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                      #70
                      some of you *******s up in hurrrr are plain ******, have little knowledge of the sport, or sukk to much ****.

                      Pac is cherry picking yet another fight. It's okay though because it's Pac, but when Mayweather does it ya'll b1tch non stop. Money Pacquiao is just as bad as Mayweather at this moment.

                      One can argue that atleast he's fighting, but I don't really give a ****. I'd rather Mayweather stay retired, and afraid of Pac then to give us BS fights against his designated hit list which consist of Paulie, Canelo, and Matt Hatton. Same for Pac. He should retire his cherry picking as.s because these BS fights aren't intriguing one bit up in hurrrr.

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