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  • Alibata
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    #71
    I may have maybe give credit to Mayweather if he kept the agreement to make weight.. but he couldn't even do it.

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    • Saddlebred
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      #72
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      No ****, welcome to 2005.

      How are you going to discredit a fight for a bad clash of styles? Clash have styles have existed from the beginning of time there have been endless bad style match-ups.

      It's like saying anyone who doesn't trade with a bralwer gets no credit for it because if he boxs him to a descion it's a bad clash of styles.


      Anyone who doesn't let an outside boxer stay on the outside and outworks him to a decsion oesn't fet credit because it was a bad style match up for the boxer.

      It's ridiculous.
      In pacland anyone who doesn't stand in the middle throwing wild punches back and forth is a "coward chicken runner" remember?

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        #73
        Originally posted by Jimbo16031992
        Marquez deserves credit.

        Both Mayweather and Pacquiao deserve s**t for the weight.

        Both Mayweather and Pacquiao will deserve credit if Pacquiao also succeeds in making Marquez look ordinary.
        Mayweather should have never fought Marquez.

        And Pac should have made the fight at 140, yet he saw what Marquez looked like at the 144 catch weight, thus it suits him better.
        Originally posted by DempseyRollin
        im sorry, you dont deserve credit for doing what every other fighter in your weight class would do in going after the money fight. i dont agree. jmm would have fought both fighters because of what they bought to the table, not because he was trying to prove some point.

        Mosley went in thurrr for money.

        Marquez goes in thurrrr for glory. He never stopped trying against Mayweather despite being heavily outclassed. That's a true warrior up in thurrr

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          #74
          Originally posted by Boxing Scene
          It wouldn't make sense for Pac to come down to 135 after not fighting there for years. Really, who would do that?
          dela hoya against pac...he ended up like a walking corpse though and got a severe asskicking so you're right it wouldn't make sense.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Saddlebred
            In pacland anyone who doesn't stand in the middle throwing wild punches back and forth is a "coward chicken runner" remember?
            marquez, barrera and morales didn't stand in the middle throwing wild punches

            didn't see anyone calling them cowards
            shane ran, deal with it

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              #76
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Don't forget Floyd failed to make weight and had to pay JMM $600,000 for coming in over.

              Another difference is pac will rehydrate a couple pounds where I'm sure floyd was 155 or so.

              But the main difference here is styles. JMM is a good matchup for Pac, a terrible match up against Floyd. JMM had to follow floyd around and be aggressive, that's not his best game. He's better suited when he plays the role of the counter puncher and that's exactly what he's going to get against Pac.

              I never ****ted on floyd for fighting Marquez, after all he said it was a tune up fight. I was however critical of not making weight and never intending to do so, I thought that was foul (although it wouldn't have mattered).
              So Floyd who was always known to rehydrate 2-3lbs on fight night, 5 tops, and even in the DLH fight, rumors were Floyd went from 150 on the scales to actually going down to 148 on fight night. Now all of a sudden he weighs in for a fight at 146, and rehydrates 9 pounds, in your opinion.

              Like Floyd is Victor Ortiz or something lol.

              How about the Baldomir fight, where he weighed in at 149 on fight night, and looked stronger than Baldomir, actually Baldomir looked like the smaller man. Carlos was 160+ on fight night according to HBO's unofficial weight.

              It's good that Mayweather stopped weighing in on fight night, now it has people speculating about him weighing in at 160lbs which is laughable. Just like Pac fans say Floyd is praising Manny by thinking he's on PED's, I think Pac fans are praising Floyd by thinking he's coming in to the ring as a Cruiserweight.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Hi-Dro
                for beating Marquez. Both fights are designated at a catch weight of 144. The same bloated and fat Marquez who fought Mayweather will be fighting Pacquiao on November. Nevertheless, people on hurrr are hyping this fight up as legitimate, as a result of their body composition, which is the same, and the fact that Marquez has been the only one to give Pac problems in a long time.

                So how could you talk **** about Mayweather fighting Marquez, yet turn around and praise Pac fighting Marquez? It's complete bull****. So if you're hyping this fight up as legit, and good for Pac then you best give Mayweather his props for beating Marquez up in hurrr

                Personally, I think Mayweather fighting Marquez was BS.
                Marquez is a Light weight, and not a WW. Pac should fight Mayweather and be like bia bia
                Mayweather fought him at 147

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Boxing Scene
                  It wouldn't make sense for Pac to come down to 135 after not fighting there for years. Really, who would do that?
                  Just for the sake of the fight getting some respect. We see how it's going so far and I do agree that JMM looks terrible at anything above 135. That's why I was thinking 138 or 140 would be fair to both guys. JMM sacrifices 5 pounds and Pac 7 pounds (he already comes in at 145 for 147 fights anyway so it would only mean a few pounds for him). JMM looks way too slow at 144 but after they both rehydrate, they should be around the same weight.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Hi-Dro
                    for beating Marquez. Both fights are designated at a catch weight of 144. The same bloated and fat Marquez who fought Mayweather will be fighting Pacquiao on November. Nevertheless, people on hurrr are hyping this fight up as legitimate, as a result of their body composition, which is the same, and the fact that Marquez has been the only one to give Pac problems in a long time.

                    So how could you talk **** about Mayweather fighting Marquez, yet turn around and praise Pac fighting Marquez? It's complete bull****. So if you're hyping this fight up as legit, and good for Pac then you best give Mayweather his props for beating Marquez up in hurrr

                    Personally, I think Mayweather fighting Marquez was BS.
                    Marquez is a Light weight, and not a WW. Pac should fight Mayweather and be like bia bia
                    hmm NO. Pac and Marquez were on the same weight division for so many years. Floyd and JMM were never on the same division. Floyd was already 147 lbs when JMM and Pac were fighting in 130 lbs division. they already fought twice in a different weight class. technically Pac and JMM were the same, its just happen that Pac was just better that JMM and dominated higher weight classes. nobodys fault but Pac and JMM are still fighting on the same weight on fight night.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
                      So Floyd who was always known to rehydrate 2-3lbs on fight night, 5 tops, and even in the DLH fight, rumors were Floyd went from 150 on the scales to actually going down to 148 on fight night. Now all of a sudden he weighs in for a fight at 146, and rehydrates 9 pounds, in your opinion.

                      Like Floyd is Victor Ortiz or something lol.

                      How about the Baldomir fight, where he weighed in at 149 on fight night, and looked stronger than Baldomir, actually Baldomir looked like the smaller man. Carlos was 160+ on fight night according to HBO's unofficial weight.

                      It's good that Mayweather stopped weighing in on fight night, now it has people speculating about him weighing in at 160lbs which is laughable. Just like Pac fans say Floyd is praising Manny by thinking he's on PED's, I think Pac fans are praising Floyd by thinking he's coming in to the ring as a Cruiserweight.
                      man, mayweather did not look bigger than baldomir


                      baldo looked much bigger
                      Last edited by SplitSecond; 05-19-2011, 03:21 PM.

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