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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by Blah!
    somwhat right, except pacquiao is shorter than marquez, will be the same weight he has always been against marquez on fight night, unlike floyd, being 5'8, coming over the limit and being probabley as heaviest he's been in his career(heard that somewhere) besides his fight with oscar
    I heard a sparring partner saw Manny Pacquaio is on steroids.

    Both are sheer allegations with absolutely nothing to suggest it to be true.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Hi-Dro
      for beating Marquez. Both fights are designated at a catch weight of 144. The same bloated and fat Marquez who fought Mayweather will be fighting Pacquiao on November. Nevertheless, people on hurrr are hyping this fight up as legitimate, as a result of their body composition, which is the same, and the fact that Marquez has been the only one to give Pac problems in a long time.

      So how could you talk **** about Mayweather fighting Marquez, yet turn around and praise Pac fighting Marquez? It's complete bull****. So if you're hyping this fight up as legit, and good for Pac then you best give Mayweather his props for beating Marquez up in hurrr

      Personally, I think Mayweather fighting Marquez was BS.
      Marquez is a Light weight, and not a WW. Pac should fight Mayweather and be like bia bia
      i feel you, the only thing that i have to say that is indifferent is that pac and marquez are closer in size in their previous fights, floyd was always bigger than marquez and didn't make the catch weight, he came in over.

      pacquiao is a riddle, he can make weight, but has been fighting bigger guys, slower guys, and having them drop down, and although marquez supposedly had mayweather drop down, in reality mayweather didn't, and mayweather is one of the fastest fighters alive, at the very least hands wise.

      pacquiao and marquez are closer in size in respect to their frame and where they're both at in this point in their careers.

      also, i think it's a style match up more than a size match up between the two, and although fighting at a higher weight benefits pacquiao, i think marquez' style is what is the issue here in this fight for pacquiao.

      i mean we're talking marquez moved up TWO WEIGHT DIVISIONS, to fight mayweather for his first time at any weight above 135, now marquez has fit into that size, and probably has found a happy medium in what works for him.

      style wise i think he poses more of a threat to pacquiao than anyone else pacquiao is really entertaining to fight.

      mayweather and martinez being the only two guys other than JMM, I see being pacquiao's toughest test.

      as for the mayweather-jmm fight, that was a **** job, i don't give it any real credit, and i do give more credit for the pac-jmm III........... it just makes sense and there is unsettled business.
      Last edited by deuce_drop; 05-19-2011, 02:07 PM.

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #43
        Originally posted by RajahBell
        Floyd won't get credit for the Marquez fight even if the weight issue is dismissed. That's because other main criticism that Mayweather received for fighting Marquez, is that Marquez is a "counter-puncher" who had to take the role of aggressor in the fight. It would have been an extremely boring fight if Marquez did not press the action because style makes fights. With Pacquiao, Marquez can fight his usual style.
        Um okay and what does that have to do with it being a legit fight or not?

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        • PAKYO
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          #44
          I've also heard Floyd saying he did not cheat and his fight with JMM was not a tune-up.
          I must be hearing things...

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            #45
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            I heard a sparring partner saw Manny Pacquaio is on steroids.

            Both are sheer allegations with absolutely nothing to suggest it to be true.
            right, anyway, marquez suppossedly weighed around 148, floyd never blows up, but going by some rumours he probabley came in around 152

            so, one i doubt marquez will come in 148 again, and two i doubt pacquiao will come in 150-152

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              #46
              Originally posted by RajahBell
              Floyd won't get credit for the Marquez fight even if the weight issue is dismissed. That's because other main criticism that Mayweather received for fighting Marquez, is that Marquez is a "counter-puncher" who had to take the role of aggressor in the fight. It would have been an extremely boring fight if Marquez did not press the action because style makes fights. With Pacquiao, Marquez can fight his usual style.
              Reallyyyyyyy?

              I guess we should go ahead and dismiss the hundreds and thousands of bad style match-ups in the illustrious history of this sport while we are at it then?

              The reason the fight got no credit is because of the weight. Nothing else.

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                #47
                Originally posted by deuce_drop
                i feel you, the only thing that i have to say that is indifferent is that pac and marquez are closer in size in their previous fights, floyd was always bigger than marquez and didn't make the catch weight, he came in over.

                pacquiao is a riddle, he can make weight, but has been fighting bigger guys, slower guys, and having them drop down, and although marquez supposedly have mayweather drop down, in reality mayweather didn't, and mayweather is one of the fastest fighters alive, at the very least hands wise.

                pacquiao and marquez are closer in size in respect to their frame and where they're both at in this point in their careers.

                also, i think it's a style match up more than a size match up between the two, and although fighting at a higher weight benefits pacquiao, i think marquez' style is what is the issue here in this fight for pacquiao.

                i mean we're talking marquez moved up TWO WEIGHT DIVISIONS, to fight mayweather for his first time at any weight above 135, now marquez has fit into that size, and probably has found a happy medium in what works for him.

                style wise i think he poses more of a threat to pacquiao than anyone else pacquiao is really entertaining to fight.

                mayweather and martinez being the only two guys other than JMM, I see being pacquiao's toughest test.

                as for the mayweather-jmm fight, that was a **** job, i don't give it any real credit, and i do give more credit for the pac-jmm III........... it just makes sense and there is unsettled business.
                Um hes moving up 2 WEIGHT DIVISIONS to fight Pac as well.

                And when did he "fit into that size"?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Blah!
                  right, anyway, marquez suppossedly weighed around 148, floyd never blows up, but going by some rumours he probabley came in around 152

                  so, one i doubt marquez will come in 148 again, and two i doubt pacquiao will come in 150-152
                  Going by some rumours Pac is on roids.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hi-Dro
                    for beating Marquez. Both fights are designated at a catch weight of 144. The same bloated and fat Marquez who fought Mayweather will be fighting Pacquiao on November. Nevertheless, people on hurrr are hyping this fight up as legitimate, as a result of their body composition, which is the same, and the fact that Marquez has been the only one to give Pac problems in a long time.

                    So how could you talk **** about Mayweather fighting Marquez, yet turn around and praise Pac fighting Marquez? It's complete bull****. So if you're hyping this fight up as legit, and good for Pac then you best give Mayweather his props for beating Marquez up in hurrr

                    Personally, I think Mayweather fighting Marquez was BS.
                    Marquez is a Light weight, and not a WW. Pac should fight Mayweather and be like bia bia

                    At least pac will make 144 lbs... wifebeater didn't even bother to make 144 lbs and weighed anywhere from 160-155 lbs. pac won't be any higher than 150 lbs.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter

                      At least pac will make 144 lbs... wifebeater didn't even bother to make 144 lbs and weighed anywhere from 160-155 lbs. pac won't be any higher than 150 lbs.
                      Floyd weighed that much based on what? And lets say he did what does have to do with it being a legit fight or not?

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