Who has the better resume Sugar Ray Leonard or Manny Pacquiao?

[BoxingTech718]

quality wins:

leonard
duran - 2
benitez - 1
hearns - 2 (one is disputed)
hagler - 1 (disputed)
total : 6

pac
hoya- 1 (no excuses please)
hatton -1
cotto -1
margo -1
erik -2
mab -2
jmm - 1(disputed)
sasakul -1 (lineal champ)
totla: 10

pac >>>>>srl......if you say srl beat the bigger names therefore he's greater then you must also belive lamotta has a better resume than srl, becuase he beat the bigger name in ray robinson....

titles and awards
division titles:
pac- 8(only man to do it)....srl -5
if you dont want to include pac's sww title then you shoul'dnt include leoard's lh title ....leonard won two div titles in one fight which is ridiculous to say the least...

fighter of the year award:
pac -3 ..... leonard - 2

lineal div titles:

pac - 4 (only man to do it)....leonard - not more than 3

div titles out of the original 8

pac -4....srl - 3

both won fighter of the decade...

again pac >>>>>srl...

facts are facts gentlemen.....love it or hate, it is what it is.....

SRL is greater because all of these guys:
leonard
duran - 2
benitez - 1
hearns - 2
hagler - 1 )
total : 6
would easily wip anybody on pac's resume hands down and probably pac himself would have at least 5 extra losses after facing those guys.

[puga]

That's because there's no argument to be had. SRL fought in the better overall era, and beat better top end competition. As I said above, there's no argument for Pacquiao over Hearns, and even Roach said Duran beats him at 140. As far as a head to head match-up, SRL would stay on the outside and pop Pacquiao with enough jabs and straights to win by decision.

As I said above, I love watching Pacquiao fight and I'm far from a hater, but better resume or even better fighter than SRL? No way, and I hate Leonard.

resume is not based on fantasy fights dumb dumb but on whay youve done as a fighter ...pac has done more than srl...

[puga]

SRL is greater because all of these guys:
leonard
duran - 2
benitez - 1
hearns - 2
hagler - 1 )
total : 6
would easily wip anybody on pac's resume hands down and probably pac himself would have at least 5 extra losses after facing those guys.

fantasy wins dont count dumb dumb....and sure aint the basis of one's greatness.....

[VolumePuncher]

resume is not based on fantasy fights dumb dumb but on whay youve done as a fighter ...pac has done more than srl...

Did you miss the first part of what I said, "dumb dumb"? SRL fought in the better era and beat better top end competition. No one on Pacquiao's resume can be reasonably ranked higher than Duran, Hearns, or Hagler, all of which SRL got W's over. The only reason I added the match-up comparisons is to further illustrate why Pacquiao is not better, because he would've had virtually no chance at beating the guys SRL did.

I swear, how hard is this to understand? I hate SRL with a passion and even I can say that he has the better resume and was also the better fighter.

[BoxingTech718]

fantasy wins dont count dumb dumb....and sure aint the basis of one's greatness.....

LOL, Pac will never be in the same universe as SRL, let alone pass him on a legit ATG list. The only opponent that he can fight that would be on the level of a a win over a Hearns, Duran, or Hagler is Mayweather. Pac hasn't done **** to even be in the top 30 ATG GTFOH you fanboy.

[IronDanHamza]

Did you miss the first part of what I said, "dumb dumb"? SRL fought in the better era and beat better top end competition. No one on Pacquiao's resume can be reasonably ranked higher than Duran, Hearns, or Hagler, all of which SRL got W's over. The only reason I added the match-up comparisons is to further illustrate why Pacquiao is not better, because he would've had virtually no chance at beating the guys SRL did.

I swear, how hard is this to understand? I hate SRL with a passion and even I can say that he has the better resume and was also the better fighter.

Words of advice; Don't bother.

No matter how much logic you bring to the table it will go round in circles until it eventually stops. Just for the whole thing to restart a few threads later.

I mean, ask anyone about him. You will get the same response.

[hugh grant]

If SRL was so good, and it was supposed to be such a good era, how come Floyd senior isnt that impressed with SRL haven even fought him? He said Flloyd would beat him.

Now you are going to say Floyd senior would say that wont you? Saying SRL would beat Pacs opponents as good as Pac is an OPINION. I deal with facts. Pac is far more dominant than SRL.

[VolumePuncher]

As for that list:

hoya- 1 - Ranked lower than Hearns, Hagler, and Duran. Was old as **** when Pacquiao fought him and couldn't have beaten anyone decent.

hatton -1 - Product of facing ****ty competition and beating up bums in the UK, got embarrassed against the only two borderline ATG fighters he faced.

cotto -1 - I won't rag on Cotto.

margo -1 - Margarito has the defensive skills of a four year old, and a major cheating controversy in his background that brings his limited achievements into question. Even depicted in the best possible light, he's jack **** in the big picture.

erik -2 - I won't pick on Morales either.

mab -2 - This one is borderline like most of MAB's. He's got big wins, but he also has some pretty notable losses.

jmm - 1(disputed) - Lmfao @ Counting this. Apparently you didn't watch their fights.

sasakul -1 - Meh, I'll give half a point for this one.

Actual total: 5

Breakdown:

1/2 point for beating an old ass De La Hoya
1 for beating Cotto
2 for Morales
1 for MAB for a high highs/low lows kind of career + the second fight being against a clearly faded version
1/2 point for Sasakul

[Turok2]

If SRL was so good, and it was supposed to be such a good era, how come Floyd senior isnt that impressed with SRL haven even fought him? He said Flloyd would beat him.

Now you are going to say Floyd senior would say that wont you? Saying SRL would beat Pacs opponents as good as Pac is an OPINION. I deal with facts. Pac is far more dominant than SRL.

so now floyd senior is a knowledgeable boxing fan

[-Boxzilla-]

If SRL was so good, and it was supposed to be such a good era, how come Floyd senior isnt that impressed with SRL haven even fought him? He said Flloyd would beat him.

Now you are going to say Floyd senior would say that wont you? Saying SRL would beat Pacs opponents as good as Pac is an OPINION. I deal with facts. Pac is far more dominant than SRL.

floyd snr also has the opinion pacs on ped's and isnt very good as well as fights amateurish. should we believe that line of thought as well? he says much worse things about pac then srl ... it doesnt make them true and is no way relevant