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  • #71
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    The hagler fight was pick em and SRL spluttered and wasnt dominant. I dont think SRL would dominate Pacs opponents like Pac did. Thats why after Pac destroyed Margarito people were saying its quite possible Pac is the GOAT now. They couldnt visualize SRL or Duran do those things.

    On the other hand, most people can see Pac would be favoured of beating Duran, Benitez, and Hearns as well.
    Are you a relative of Grant's Scotch Whisky?? If so, you should keep away from the sample bottles when visiting. They are affecting your judgement. I've noticed that you take positions contrary to common-sense, logic and fact, nearly all the time.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
      Please tell me who destroyed Hearns,Duran & Hagler before Sugar fought them.This I gotta see.
      with the exeptin of hearns and benitez, all of his opponenets have already got beaten....

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      • #73
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Pac has had a more succesful career than SRL, being more dominant.
        SRL best wins, Duran, Hagler, Hearn,
        Pacs best wins, Morales, Barrera, JMM, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey

        But Pac has been more dominant. To say SRLs opponents are better is just an opinion, but the fact that Pac is more dominant isnt an OPINON it is FACT, which you cant escape.

        You might as well say Randolph turpin has a better resume than Pac because his best opponent win is better than Pacs best opponent win. WHich is as ridculous as saying SRL resume is better or more succesful.

        Fact is pac is far more dominant than SRL ever was. That people believe SRL beat better people is just an OPINION with no hard facts or evidence. I could say JMM would outbox Duran and there is nothing you could do to prove me wrong.
        Well, it's not the same is it.

        Although Randolph Turpin is a good fighter and a HOF'er. He is obviously not as great as Manny Pacqiuao. Yes, he went 1-1 with a past prime but very game Ray Robinson, which is a great feat. But that alone doesn't make you greater than Pac.

        However, Leonard has wins over; Hearns, Duran, Hagler (questionable) and Benitez. Which are just the ones that stand out, he also beat many other top competition as well as those huge names.

        It really isn't an opinion who fought the tougher competition. Those 4 names are ranked higher than anyone on Pac's resume by anny legit historian, by quite a margin.

        Does that have something to do with this era being 10x worse than that one? Probably.

        But that's just how it is. It is impossible to claim Pac fought tougher competiton than Ray Leonard.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by puga View Post
          with the exeptin of hearns and benitez, all of his opponenets have already got beaten....
          So U won't answer then.Well if U payed attention to what I quoted from that guy & so forth.U would see that my post aimed at them being destroyed.Ur homeboy was making an aweful big deal about Pacman dominating guys that have been already previously destroyed.I wasn't going for someone taking a loss.I was going for destroyed.So U quoting me to begin with was worthless,but thanks anyway.

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          • #75
            3 words.... Singsurat, Torrecampo, Morales.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              So U won't answer then.Well if U payed attention to what I quoted from that guy & so forth.U would see that my post aimed at them being destroyed.Ur homeboy was making an aweful big deal about Pacman dominating guys that have been already previously destroyed.I wasn't going for someone taking a loss.I was going for destroyed.So U quoting me to begin with was worthless,but thanks anyway.
              i just did....., you keep downplying the cotto and hatton win coz they have lost once prior to losing to pac...well, im just going by your logic,and telling you sugar's resume is full of those too...same with the margo, when was the last time srl beat somoen 17 lbs bigger than him?...

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              • #77
                Originally posted by puga View Post
                i just did....., you keep downplying the cotto and hatton win coz they have lost once prior to losing to pac...well, im just going by your logic,and telling you sugar's resume is full of those too...same with the margo, when was the last time srl beat somoen 17 lbs bigger than him?...
                Loosing & being dominated & stopped are 2 different things.Save ur argument for when it belongs.Like I said ur homeboy was touting on about Pacman dominating guys that have already been stopped.Which is why I pointed out that most of them have been stopped before,Ur argument is off base,that is all.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Steak View Post
                  enough with these Pacquiao threads.

                  Leonard has the better high level wins over Hearns, Duran, Benitez and Hagler(controversial). Apart from that, he also has a win over one of the best 154lbers ever in Ayub Kalule, and a extra credit win against Lalonde.

                  add in the fact that he actually beat up most the top Welterweights before he won the title(ie Ranzany, Mayweather, Shields, Muniz, Green,etc) and he actually has just as many or more wins over top competition.

                  so its pretty clearly Leonard to me.
                  I would definitely NOT give Leonard credit for his LaLonde win. His resume is much better than Manny P's, true, but making the natural 175lb champ come down to i68, so that Leaonard can also say he has won a 175 lb. title was scandalous. Although not as bad as the Mayweather-Corrales obscenity.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    Loosing & being dominated & stopped are 2 different things.Save ur argument for when it belongs.Like I said ur homeboy was touting on about Pacman dominating guys that have already been stopped.Which is why I pointed out that most of them have been stopped before,Ur argument is off base,that is all.
                    ofcourse they arent...but the first cotto and hatton losses werent a domntaion like you claim.....both fights were competive until the stoppage......like i said , when your comparing to fighters you have to do the cricism to both, not just pac...coz people aint that dumb not to see your biasness...
                    Last edited by puga; 04-24-2011, 01:53 PM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Mr. Blobby View Post
                      If he fought the level of opposition SRL did, do you think he would be so dominating?
                      You must be a ****** to compare PAC to those opposition LOL. PAC is a 5'6 dude who is fighting 10th weight above where he started. Can SRL beat Barerra at featherweight....yea that what I thought.

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