Who has the better resume Sugar Ray Leonard or Manny Pacquiao?

[Bushbaby]

either youre twisting **** now or just dumb as hell....go find me that post where i said that...infact, i implied very clear in a question that srl is greater than lamotta....

U throw around dumb & owning so much it's simply amazing.The post U quoted & responded to with this,was not to U,did not concern U or had anything to do with what u & I were debating.So what I'd like to know is how does Iron Dan mistaken something I said lead to me twisting something up that never concerned U,quoted or not to begin with??I suggest U not use dumb ever again,quoting & answering something that was never directed at U or had anything to do with U,just saying.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

well, i coundted them as wins did'nt i?...correction, ray leanards resume>>>>>>>floyd's...but not pac's...i already stated my case....

Ray Leonard's OVER Mayweather and Pacquiao RESUME...EASY!

More people would respect certain fans if they would just be honest and say "HEY...I AM A PACQUIAO FAN THAT IS WHY I THINK HIS RESUME IS BETTER" instead of trying to make some of the most RIDICULOUS ARGUMENTS lol

[V.WEBB]

Still trying to figure out why this thread and the one comparing Floyd's resume to SRL were even created.

[puga]

U throw around dumb & owning so much it's simply amazing.The post U quoted & responded to with this,was not to U,did not concern U or had anything to do with what u & I were debating.So what I'd like to know is how does Iron Dan mistaken something I said lead to me twisting something up that never concerned U,quoted or not to begin with??I suggest U not use dumb ever again,quoting & answering something that was never directed at U or had anything to do with U,just saying.

did'n you say i said lamotta is greater than srl?....if not then im sorry....but just wanted to make it clear i never said lamotta is greater than leonard..

[Stromprophet]

Don't matter if Ray Leonard wins were Controversial...they still go down as WINS, I never even like Leonard because I was a Hagler fans, but that Fantastic 4 ERA is better the anything Manny and Mayweather had to get past. You can hype up Morales, JMM, Barrerra ALL YOU WANT, that still won't match up to all of those LEGENDS fighting each other.

Hagler and Hearns aren't that highly posted on all time lists. In fact, Morales, JMM, Berrerra are right behind those two.

I have an issue with Hagler being posted highly on there (a lot of people put him higher than Hearns, which is ridiculous), the fact that he retired early and he only fought Hearns 1X, Duran 1X, and Leonard 1X. No rematches?

For all the clamor most people fail to acknowledge there was only *1* trilogy among all those fights against each other. Yes, those guys fought each other, but they did not fight trilogies. In fact, most of them never fought rematches.

Nobody is saying that Manny's Resume is not good, it is just not as good as Leonard's and Leonard has the advantage because his ERA had 3 fighters that would go on to be ALL TIME GREATS.

4 fighters? Hearns, Duran, Leonard, Hagler...yeah, 4.

There are some hall of famers in this era too.

Shane Mosely, De La Hoya, Mayweather, JMM, MAB, Morales, Manny.

And Manny is set to fight the 5th of those guys. I just don't think it's as clear cut, plus Manny is fighting some pretty high level competition outside of HOF fighters as well.

Cotto, multiple division champ, Margarito, multiple division champ, Hatton, multiple division champ.

[puga]

Ray Leonard's OVER Mayweather and Pacquiao RESUME...EASY!

More people would respect certain fans if they would just be honest and say "HEY...I AM A PACQUIAO FAN THAT IS WHY I THINK HIS RESUME IS BETTER" instead of trying to make some of the most RIDICULOUS ARGUMENTS lol

you can keep sayin that but without backing it up , it means nothing...but one thing i agree is that srl>>>>>floyd......but not pac.....

[Bushbaby]

did'n you say i said lamotta is greater than srl?....if not then im sorry....but just wanted to make it clear i never said lamotta is greater than leonard..

Nope,never.Never happened.That's why I try to tell U to read & understand instead of just sounding out words.

[puga]

Nope,never.Never happened.That's why I try to tell U to read & understand instead of just sounding out words.

my bad then man.....

[VolumePuncher]

To me, it's this simple when comparing the two: As much as I hate SRL, the fact of the matter is that he beat a lot of great fighters and was a pretty gifted athlete. Not only would he beat Pacquiao head to head with relative ease, but so would most of the guys he beat.

I mean seriously, can anyone see Pacquiao picking up a win against Hearns? He'd get KO'd inside of 4 rounds. What about the Duran that took the title from SRL? Can anyone honestly say Pacquiao survives that fight?

[IronDanHamza]

Benitez? Don't know that he belongs with the 4 obvious choices. Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard. Also, Hagler's career should have been longer to see a clearer picture. (Reason why he is left off a lot of top 50 lists)

Kind of hard to compare some of those guys though, they all fought in higher weight divisions than Manny's competition.

But Manny has an impressive list.

JMM 2X
MAB 2X
Morales 3X
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosely next week.

Those guys are top 50 all time.

Leonard

Marvin 1X
Duran 3X
Hearns 2X

I mean, on a top 50 basis, Manny has more fights. Though, I would agree Leonards divisions had more depth than Mannys do today. But I also think Manny takes more hard fights than Leonard.

Example. He didn't rematch Hearns right away (in fact, he waited 8 years, in a ridiculous fight which he clearly lost and somehow got a draw). Not surprising given how the first match went, after all, who wants to shorten their career against a fighter who will give them issues.

By comparison, the longest delay rematch Manny had was with JMM. 4 years. And he rematched Morales almost immediately after losing to him. And again almost immediately after beating him.

Manny will have fought 18 times now over 7 years at the very highest level (ever since MAB fight).

Leonard only fought 13 times over 10 years if you consider the Benetiz fight the beginning of the higher level.

I gave the edge to Leonard, but it's not an open and shut case.

None of those names you mentioned for Pac are Top 50 ATG's. Morales and Barrera being the only one's who have a slight argument, yet a small one.

You also creditted Pac with 3 Morales wins.

Benitez is an ATG fighter, and is greater than almost all those names mentioned for Pac.

Manny may have more wins against top ranked fighters, but Leonard by far has the better fighters on his resume. And it really isn't close.

Hense why he is that much greater.