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  • #81
    Originally posted by Forza View Post
    All black American athletes from every sport are always overrated. Any black boxer that strings together 10 knock outs is considered the next mike tyson.

    White boxers, especially from europe need 30+ wins without a single defeat to even get noticed.

    Mostly it's America overrating their athletes. The 2nd most overrated athete is the white football player like the tom bradys and the ben rothwells. Those dudes aint all that.
    Dude, you're like a broken record and becoming no better than these fools that run around talking about "slick-black-americanism" while simultaneously throwin' down the race card.

    Get a new hobby horse.

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    • #82
      pwill isn't exciting. He's a plodding south paw with no K.O power or speed. So glad martinez sonned him twice

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      • #83
        What is it with Americans and race? Isn't it time to embrace the 21st century?

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        • #84
          I think they are held to lower standard. A black american boxer beats some stiffs and all of a sudden he's la cream de la crem. I think it's the Euro boxers that are held to higher standards. They have to beat the whole world to even get a bit of credit from american media/fans. That's just how I see it.

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          • #85
            Boxing is all about race and nationalism. Everyone wants to see "their" guy win.

            Also, i've heard black boxers say the only reason they got into boxing was to be able to legally punch white people in the face

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            • #86
              I just think a lot of american fighters are overrated and when they lose their fans are like wtf, i thought he was better than that, time to move my loyalty to another guy, rinse and repeat

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Smash View Post
                I just think a lot of american fighters are overrated and when they lose their fans are like wtf, i thought he was better than that, time to move my loyalty to another guy, rinse and repeat

                And this is different than Mexican fighters or Asian fighters or English fighters or Russian fighters or Canuckistanian fighters precisely how, please?

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                  I think they are held to lower standard. A black american boxer beats some stiffs and all of a sudden he's la cream de la crem. I think it's the Euro boxers that are held to higher standards. They have to beat the whole world to even get a bit of credit from american media/fans. That's just how I see it.
                  I agree....because Andre Berto is on the p4p lists as he beats stiffs left right and centre....Pirog was going to beat Martinez just off beating unproven Jacobs......

                  PWill is called a scrub, despite beating Martinez, and a PRIME Margarito......people tend to forget that.......

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by -The Game- View Post
                    Ok seen as you keep ducking my questions......

                    How many fans does Dawson, Berto and P WIll have ...how many sigs do you see sporting these fighters...other than Burner..no one really seems to rate these fighters.....As you say...if there were rated so high..black fans would come out to see them fight...seen as they think they have superior athleticism

                    Its funny you talk about black fans shouting about their supremacy or w/e but I never see you address the Klit fans who, among them, have quite possibly the most racist fans and send racist karma messages.....
                    You don't have any relevant questions to what I said.

                    If they're held to a higher standard as you say,

                    blame their idiotic Black supremacist fans who love to shout about their athletic superiority.

                    Now, did I say all Black fans are of the Black supremacist type?

                    No. I specifically singled out a particular type of Black fan. The Horus', the SonofIsis', the Burners', the yesirs', the M.I.Cs'.



                    Regular boxing fans, of any color, don't paint them as superior based on their race.

                    Once again,

                    as I stated before,

                    Black supremacist fans, do.

                    Like it or not, those guys get alot of attention because of their stances. Those Black supremacist fans, with their views, up the standards of those fighters because of that. Is it fair? Of course not. But if you'll notice, most of the back lash is directed to those fans when one of their favorites loses, not all Black fighters in general.

                    Now, in regards to Black fans, just like I stated the other day, Black fans only support Black athletes in large numbers, when that athlete is dominating. Which is why you don't see large numbers for PW, Dawson, etc.

                    Now in regards to the Klits, is Vitali not dominating his division? Why wouldn't he get praise for that? In regards to what you get as I karma message, how would I know? I don't have the option of seeing others karma messages so frankly, I don't give a ****, nor do I see a thread crying about white boxers being held to a higher standard.

                    Are there white supremacist fans here? Yes. There are for every nationality.

                    So, whats your point? None.


                    To answer the original question again,

                    In simple terms, no, Black us boxers are not held to a higher standard. Its when Black supremacist fans of those fighters tend to rate them higher than they should be, and then they get their a ss whipped is when threads like this happen.

                    If a certain segment of fan didn't overrate the **** out of a boxers ability just because of their skin color,

                    there wouldn't be so much s hit flung around after he gets chin checked.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Johnny Chingas View Post
                      You don't have any relevant questions to what I said.




                      Now, did I say all Black fans are of the Black supremacist type?

                      No. I specifically singled out a particular type of Black fan. The Horus', the SonofIsis', the Burners', the yesirs', the M.I.Cs'.



                      Regular boxing fans, of any color, don't paint them as superior based on their race.

                      Once again,

                      as I stated before,

                      Black supremacist fans, do.

                      Like it or not, those guys get alot of attention because of their stances. Those Black supremacist fans, with their views, up the standards of those fighters because of that. Is it fair? Of course not. But if you'll notice, most of the back lash is directed to those fans when one of their favorites loses, not all Black fighters in general.

                      Now, in regards to Black fans, just like I stated the other day, Black fans only support Black athletes in large numbers, when that athlete is dominating. Which is why you don't see large numbers for PW, Dawson, etc.

                      Now in regards to the Klits, is Vitali not dominating his division? Why wouldn't he get praise for that? In regards to what you get as I karma message, how would I know? I don't have the option of seeing others karma messages so frankly, I don't give a ****, nor do I see a thread crying about white boxers being held to a higher standard.

                      Are there white supremacist fans here? Yes. There are for every nationality.

                      So, whats your point? None.


                      To answer the original question again,

                      In simple terms, no, Black us boxers are not held to a higher standard. Its when Black supremacist fans of those fighters tend to rate them higher than they should be, and then they get their a ss whipped is when threads like this happen.

                      If a certain segment of fan didn't overrate the **** out of a boxers ability just because of their skin color,

                      there wouldn't be so much s hit flung around after he gets chin checked.
                      Good lord man. This message board not only owns you, but it has you shook.

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