Are black US boxers held to a higher standard?

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  • Walterson
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    Are black US boxers held to a higher standard?

    Up until defeat, they're labeled as 'bums' etc ... however upon a loss, their victors are exalted as the next best fighter in boxer ..

    Examples of this.

    Danny Jacobs
    James Kirkland
    Paul Williams - especially Williams, this guy was barely getting any props when dominant... even tho he fought everyone and made exciting fights

    Is this just me, or has anyone noticed this crazy trend of late?
  • BTL
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    #2
    They just have to fill the shoes of the black us fighters of the past.. And alot were great.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #3
      Ive noticed them getting *****ter.

      If you're not that good, you're not that good and those 3 fall under that category regardless of colour.

      And please. Williams was being hyped as someone who could doninate in 3 divisions.

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      • Check
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        Without a doubt, yes. When you see young talent in America(usually black) and they fail there is major backlash. There is a great tradition in American Boxing and each crop of fighters is expected to carry the torch. I actually think this is a good thing because it instills a certain confidence in a fighter to succeed. It also creates a certain drive that is needed to become a world class fighter.

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        • Walterson
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          #5
          Good points! Let me give you another example...

          Maidana, opts out of a fight with Bradley, loses to Khan, fights dirty against a legend like Morales... and he still gets huge plaudits all round.

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          • -The Game-
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            #6
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Ive noticed them getting *****ter.

            If you're not that good, you're not that good and those 3 fall under that category regardless of colour.

            And please. Williams was being hyped as someone who could doninate in 3 divisions.
            Why do people keep forgetting Paul Williams beat PRIME Magragrito and beat (controversially) Sergio Martinez...some resume for not being good.....just about 90% of Brit fighters would love to have that resume......

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              #7
              Originally posted by Check
              Without a doubt, yes. When you see young talent in America(usually black) and they fail there is major backlash. There is a great tradition in American Boxing and each crop of fighters is expected to carry the torch. I actually think this is a good thing because it instills a certain confidence in a fighter to succeed. It also creates a certain drive that is needed to become a world class fighter.
              That happens to every fighter. When a British or "Euro" fighter fails, you get all manner of Fat Yanks calling them hypejobs, bums etc. Its the nature of the game. You only seem to notice it when it happens to the fighters you happen to have a personal affinity for.

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              • Walterson
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                #8
                I've got nothing but pure respect for a guy like Sergio Martinez, but it's arguable that Timothy Bradley has a similar if not better resume, yet is not propped up as much as him.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by -The Game-
                  Why do people keep forgetting Paul Williams beat PRIME Magragrito and beat (controversially) Sergio Martinez...some resume for not being good.....just about 90% of Brit fighters would love to have that resume......
                  Idk about that.. Paul is my guy but I wouldn't want his resume.. He can win fights but he can easily lose fights.. I'm talking when he faces elite boxers.

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                    Originally posted by Walterson
                    I've got nothing but pure respect for a guy like Sergio Martinez, but it's arguable that Timothy Bradley has a similar if not better resume, yet is not propped up as much as him.
                    He doesnt have a better resume. He has nowhere near the same skill or performance level either.

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