Serious Question: Why did Pac ask Floyd to pay a 10 Million per pound weight penalty?

[RL_GMA]

We could have alot of proof...just take this test fight here...

Hey, I'm all for Manny testing. Difference with me is, I'm not pinning my hopes on him being a cheater more than just wanting some actual proof from people who are calling him a cheater without a shred of evidence to support their claim. I mean, this drug testing was supposed to push the envelope for the sport to make it a clean environment for the fighters, which really hasn't happened. With the Mayweather fans, it's obvious there will be bias towards him and whatever he demands, as with Pacquiao fans alike. But you're still left with the burden of proof and all people can rely on is Pacquiao not taking Floyd's demand.

I'll ask this, do you believe the Mayweathers have proof of Pacquiao's cheating and are just holding back on it?

[Pacquiao'd]

Becoz PBF cheat jmm on their fight AHOLE!!!!

then pac cheated the two opponents he came in overweight for...kick rocks with your double standards, fanboy

[Pacquiao'd]

Because Floyd at first wanted the fight at 154 and later agreed to 147, leaving Pacquiao's camp to believe that he would weigh over the weight limit.

prove floyd wanted the fight at 54

[Pacquiao'd]

because he wanted floyd to come in not higher than the agreed upon weight, which is what he is supposed to do in the first place.

a couple of million dollar penalty will not stop him to go over the limit if he wanted to considering the fact that they will probably get 40 million each

has floyd EVER come in over weight for fight at 47? how many times has pac come in over weight for a fight? TWICE

holes have been punched through your argument, clown

[RL_GMA]

Your argument is lame bro. Cut the crap.

Answer the question; Again, why doesnt Pac want to be tested?

You have no proof, and you have no argument. I'm giving you a chance to spread your message to a bigger platform, yet you revert to "Just take a test". I for one believe Pacquiao didn't take any tests because he or his team didn't feel obligated to do so considering Floyd had NEVER asked that of any previous fighter. It could be as simple as Pacquiao's team just saying "F*** You, you don't run ****". But of course, it's going to be flipped as "Pacquiao's a cheat!!!!". Look at it whichever way you want, but you are still left without proof and you're pointing fingers as if you actually know Pac's cheating.

So again, preach to a bigger audience, gather all the people who ride for the same cause you do and prove Pacquiao is a cheat beyond him simply not taking Floyd's test. Seriously, if you guys can prove this, you deserve all the credit in the world. I'd salute you to the fullest. The question is whether or not you're that serious about it. The resources are all there for you.

[cnote111]

So just so i'm up to speed now that i decided to hop into this (dead horse) thread...

Why the 10 Million Penalty?

*******: Because FMJ is a known cheat at the scales from the previous fight.
*****: Because PAC has to have every advantage at the scales and its a ****** mind game.
Boxing Fan: Man i really hope we can see this fight.

Why not take the OST?

*******: Because FMJ has no evidence to back up his accusations and he is just trying to duck the fight.
*****: PAC has something to hide
Boxing Fan: Both fighters are posturing - Man i really hope we can see this fight.

Current feelings about each fighter

*******: FMJ is a coward, goes on vacation, only takes tune up fights, and wants nothing to do with anyone that can take is "0"
*****: Pac only fights weight drained one dimensional old washed up fighters.
Boxing Fan: Man i really hope we can see this fight.


I think it is safe to say the boxing fan is the only one really getting screwed here...


Me <---- Pacfan for life

[Pacquiao'd]

I miss the good old days when Floyd merely asking to testing was a duck.

"How dare Floyd ask for testing, the comission do the testing! Floyd knows Manny will never accept them that's why he is asking for them! Ducker!"

Now we get all this "Manny accepts the testing" ****

"Manny accepts the testing! between rounds! Floyd is ducking"

It's great when testing is utterly unsupported until Manny's team allegedly says he will take them. Then it's absolutely fine.

this...............

[V.WEBB]

Hey, I'm all for Manny testing. Difference with me is, I'm not pinning my hopes on him being a cheater more than just wanting some actual proof from people who are calling him a cheater without a shred of evidence to support their claim.

Good. The testing can only be a good thing. But we could have a whole lot of clarity BY Manny taking the tests. Rather people like it or not, he's looked rather su****ious in the way all of this was handled.

I mean, this drug testing was supposed to push the envelope for the sport to make it a clean environment for the fighters, which really hasn't happened. With the Mayweather fans, it's obvious there will be bias towards him and whatever he demands, as with Pacquiao fans alike. But you're still left with the burden of proof and all people can rely on is Pacquiao not taking Floyd's demand.

Its not going to happen overnight, its going to take some time.

I'll ask this, do you believe the Mayweathers have proof of Pacquiao's cheating and are just holding back on it?

I think they were told that he was juicing by someone in the boxing circles. And I think that whoever told them, they trusted their word. Because I know a few guys that posts here that are in the industry and they have told me on a number of occasions that possibility of Manny juicing had been talked about much before Floyd Sr said what he said.

[jtiger777]

aren't you guys tired of the same o' stuff since 2yrs ago?

man i feel u!

[cnote111]

Good. The testing can only be a good thing. But we could have a whole lot of clarity BY Manny taking the tests. Rather people like it or not, he's looked rather su****ious in the way all of this was handled.



Its not going to happen overnight, its going to take some time.



I think they were told that he was juicing by someone in the boxing circles. And I think that whoever told them, they trusted their word. Because I know a few guys that posts here that are in the industry and they have told me on a number of occasions that possibility of Manny juicing had been talked about much before Floyd Sr said what he said.

I was boxing fan before Pac, i will be a boxing fan after Pac - But i would be devastated if he was on PED's (i would possibly even cry a little)...

However, there is zero proof other than heresay and a refusal to take a test that has a multitude of reasons why not to. Specifically because of who is asking for them.

Until the athletic commisions force these types of tests on everyone, or some real evidence that determines guilt. I truly believe Pac deserves the benefit of the doubt. You don't have to be a fan of his to know that he deserves respect for what he has given the boxing community in the ring. Same goes for Mayweather, inside the ring no one would ever deny is ability. But the fact still remains innocent until proven guilty and Pac is still #1 across the board. "*****s/Haters" are just going to have to deal with it.