Greater RESUME/ATG RANKING; Floyd Jr. or Mike Tyson

[edgarg]

It's easy to look like a monster fighting in the weakest heavyweight division ever.

The point I'm making is whether they were Champions or not, Tyson always came out blazing , trying to KO his opponent right away, like switching on a clockwork artifact.

[edgarg]

in boxing years he was rather old. his career was on a downturn, dont think he was shot but he definitely wasnt prime. it was a good win, does it count for as much as u claim it does? no way.

He was 31, had 30 fights mostly against lt-heavies, was unbeaten, and had just got 2( close) decisions over an unbeaten 48-0 all time great. He wasn't even nearly on the downgrade, he was at his peak. A different guy from his brother Leon.

And Tyson nearly killed him right from the very first moment of the fight, in his usual way. Didn't wait, didn't evaluate, didn't spar or manoeuvre, just went for him. What was it, a 90 second solid KO??

[NChristo]

He was 31, had 30 fights mostly against lt-heavies, was unbeaten, and had just got 2( close) decisions over an unbeaten 48-0 all time great. He wasn't even nearly on the downgrade, he was at his peak. A different guy from his brother Leon.

And Tyson nearly killed him right from the very first moment of the fight, in his usual way. Didn't wait, didn't evaluate, didn't spar or manoeuvre, just went for him. What was it, a 90 second solid KO??

He was clearly on the downgrade and the year lay off didn't make him any better at all, how anyone can say he was at his peak is beyond me and I'd expect more out of you edgar.

It's clear that he lost a lot when he moved up to heavyweight, he had a tough fight with an untrained Holmes and a lot of people I speak to think Holmes was robbed in the 2nd.

Age does not define the boxer, everyone ages differently.

[IronDanHamza]

Mayweather, IMO.

[edgarg]

[QUOTE=tonyjones;10330789]

All I gotta say is mike stepped in the ring with 4 ATG's (granted he lost to two of them) where as Floyd is still waiting for his first. Its tough because of his losses and short "prime" but I give the edge to Tyson for his pre-prison run.[/QUOTE


Are de la hoya and mosely not all time greats???

Oscar and Mosley......NO. Hall of Fame....Yes, but that's it.

[pacquia0]

Spinks was an undefeated ATG. Holmes had only lost to Spinks and Tyson was the only guy to ever KO him. Holmes was still a good fighter he went onto beat an undefeated Ray mercer.

[Kagami Taiga]

seriously if u guys are gonna come on here and argue emotions and who u like better then just state that. because the arguments being made in this thread are downright ridiculous. i thought this was a boxing fansite?

i mean im a big tyson fan, hes very responsible for my love of boxing, but holmes and spinks were past it when he fought them. to say otherwise is an insult to both of these guys careers.

[edgarg]

His prime ended at 23 duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It wasn't that his prime ended at 23. It probably could have ended at about 30, but by 23 he's put himself under sinsiter influences and got away from proper training, and pther proper behaviour. Not only was he too young to resist, he was being urged into excess.

It was THIS which cut his prime so short. His story is so well known, and has been written and movied about so many times, it seems silly for us to be doing it all over again.

Tyson was a "one-of-a-kind" phenomenon never before seen in our lifetimes, went up like a blazing rocket, and spluttered out like a wet squib.

[FerdinandMarcos]

Spinks was an undefeated ATG. Holmes had only lost to Spinks and Tyson was the only guy to ever KO him. Holmes was still a good fighter he went onto beat an undefeated Ray mercer.

As if you followed boxing back then.

Spinks was a career Lt. heavyweight and was on the decline like many of Tyson's ****ty opponents.

Everybody with brains knew Tyson was all smoke and mirrors.

[pacquia0]

As if you followed boxing back then.

Spinks was a career Lt. heavyweight and was on the decline like many of Tyson's ****ty opponents.

Everybody with brains knew Tyson was all smoke and mirrors.

Spinks moved up to hevayweight and beat Holmesx2 and KOed Cooney. Spinks would beat both the Klits, Prime Holyfield and Lewis.

Tyson was the complete fighter. JMM was a blown up featherweight who didnt do anything at welterweight. Hatton is a JWW. De La Hoya was prime at welterweight.