Greater RESUME/ATG RANKING; Floyd Jr. or Mike Tyson

[Kagami Taiga]

Spinks moved up to hevayweight and beat Holmesx2 and KOed Cooney. Spinks would beat both the Klits, Prime Holyfield and Lewis.

Tyson was the complete fighter. JMM was a blown up featherweight who didnt do anything at welterweight. Hatton is a JWW. De La Hoya was prime at welterweight. Mosley was shot.

Cooney??? seriously dude...u dont know what ur talking about. when spinks fought him cooney was shot to ****. that is indisputable. spinks was a shell of his light heavy self. he was a killer at light heavy. go watch the fights man. thats all i can tell u, because what u are saying just dont make sense.

[NChristo]

Spinks moved up to hevayweight and beat Holmesx2 and KOed Cooney. Spinks would beat both the Klits, Prime Holyfield and Lewis.

The extents people will go to for their Floyd hate to refuse that he is greater then someone. .

Pretty sure everyone on here slated Tyson in the past for beating a blown up, past it Spinks that quote ''Didn't belong in the ring with him'', but now he's a Super ATG at Heavy which is an amazing win.

[pacquia0]

Cooney??? seriously dude...u dont know what ur talking about. when spinks fought him cooney was shot to ****. that is indisputable. spinks was a shell of his light heavy self. he was a killer at light heavy. go watch the fights man. thats all i can tell u, because what u are saying just dont make sense.

Spinks was unbeaten and had beaten Holmesx2 also. Watch the Holmes fights where he outjabs a guy known for his jab. Then he showed his power against Cooney. Tyson just made him look bad.

Spinks would KO Dempsey.

[Kagami Taiga]

Spinks was unbeaten and had beaten Holmesx2 also. Watch the Holmes fights where he outjabs a guy known for his jab. Then he showed his power against Cooney. Tyson just made him look bad.

Spinks would KO Dempsey.

lmao...ok, im done talking to u. good luck bro.

[pacquia0]

The extents people will go to for their Floyd hate to refuse that he is greater then someone. .

Pretty sure everyone on here slated Tyson in the past for beating a blown up, past it Spinks that quote ''Didn't belong in the ring with him'', but now he's a Super ATG at Heavy which is an amazing win.

Spinks has beaten ATG hevayweight Holmesx2 and KOed Cooney. He didnt belong in the ring with Tyson because Tyson was a killer that night and would of KOed anyone that night in 1 round.

Floyd hasnt beaten anyone as good as Frank bruno.

[Eastbay Giant]

Tyson...

[FerdinandMarcos]

Spinks moved up to hevayweight and beat Holmesx2 and KOed Cooney. Spinks would beat both the Klits, Prime Holyfield and Lewis.

Tyson was the complete fighter. JMM was a blown up featherweight who didnt do anything at welterweight. Hatton is a JWW. De La Hoya was prime at welterweight.

Hatton should have fought Floyd at 140 when he had the chances.

JMM was a tuneup after 2 years away...

At least he didn't fight Golden Johnson or Alphonso Gomez...LOL


Tyson wasn't a complete anything.

He just looked like a complete fighter feasting on weak comp like Marvis Frazier and the DREADED Henry Tillman.

Tyson fought in one of the weakest heavyweight divisions EVER....just look who he won his Title from...LOL

Trevor Burbick's wobbling ass.

Hell I coulda' did that.

Compare Burbick to Genaro Hernandez..the guy Floyd won his title from.

Tyson got WHOOPED by a journeyman...Douglass.

Floyd would never lose to a journeyman.

[edgarg]

Floyd beat WBC champions in 5 different weight classes. Won lineal titles at 130, 135, and 147. Won The Ring titles at 135 and 147. Pick on his resume all you want, going from 130, 135, 140, 147 pounds up to 154 pounds and staying undefeated 41-0, along with the above accomplishments, how can you possibly hate on that. Even great fighters lose while going up in weight, it takes a special fighter to stay undefeated through 5 weight classes. This can't even be a debate. Tyson was a big money fighter but he's not even
close to Floyd's accomplishments.

The following are facts. When Mayweather came to be better known, just before he won the 130 title from the former semi retired featherweight champ, who retired immediately after, it was often mentioned in print, that Mayweather ALWAYS had an "edge" in his fights. They used to refer to his "Brains Trust" how smart they were in their choice of opponents for Mayweather, which gave him a definite edge, but also made him look good.

It was only later that guys like Merchant would talk about another Mayweather fiasco, "stinking out the half empty arena" guys walking out whilst he was actually fighting in the ring, etc.etc.

I have a video where Merchant mentioned the "quarter filled arena, stinking out the arena and guys walking out" all in the same broadcast, and that it was another typical Mayweather fight.

I can't help what these guys say, but they said it. Those who have only recently latched on to the Mayweather PR stunts, don't know about these things.

For example Mayweatrher, to this very day, says that Emmanuel Augustus was his toughest fight. But at the time, Mayweather was 20 or 22-0 and Augustus was around 21-18, on paper, a cinch, and not a fit fight for an up and comer with such talent as Mayweather.

It was the same with Castillo, I think he'd had about 6-7 losses at that time, and had been Julio Caesar Chavez" chief sparring partner for most of his career, more than he was an actual fighter, and was thought to be "worn out". That was nearly another disaster where the Brains Trust miscalculated.

As it turned out, he luckily stopped Augustus in, I think, the 9th (a body shot?) and maybe that his promoter at the time of the Castillo fight was Top Rank (I think) may have just won him that fight which so many thought he lost.

I was one of them, although I believe he won the return, (wider than the official cards).

[Kagami Taiga]

Hatton should have fought Floyd at 140 when he had the chances.

JMM was a tuneup after 2 years away...At least
Floyd didn't fight Golden Johnson or Alphonso Gomez...LOL


Tyson wasn't a complete anything.

He just looked like a complete fighter feasted on bums like Marvis Frazier and the DREADED Henry Tillman.

Tyson fought in one of the weakest heavyweight divisions EVER....just look who he won his Title from...LOL

Trevor Burbick's wobbling ass.

I coulda' did that.

Compare Burbick to Genaro Hernandez..the guy Floyd won his title from.

its kinda hard to blame tyson for the dearth of hw challengers at his time. he hit the division at a trasition period where all the shavers, nortons, holmes, foremans, spinks, cooneys etc were hitting their decline. and he got in trouble before the bowes, holyfields, lewis' etc got there. the second half may be his fault for ****ing up his life. but the first part really isnt.

[edgarg]

The following are facts. When Mayweather came to be better known, just before he won the 130 title from the former semi retired featherweight champ, who retired immediately after, it was often mentioned in print, that Mayweather ALWAYS had an "edge" in his fights. They used to refer to his "Brains Trust" how smart they were in their choice of opponents for Mayweather, which gave him a definite edge, but also made him look good.

It was only later that guys like Merchant would talk about another Mayweather fiasco, "stinking out the half empty arena" guys walking out whilst he was actually fighting in the ring, etc.etc.

I have a video where Merchant mentioned the "quarter filled arena, stinking out the arena and guys walking out" all in the same broadcast, and that it was another typical Mayweather fight.

I can't help what these guys say, but they said it. Those who have only recently latched on to the Mayweather PR stunts, don't know about these things.

For example Mayweatrher, to this very day, says that Emmanuel Augustus was his toughest fight. But at the time, Mayweather was 20 or 22-0 and Augustus was around 21-18, on paper, a cinch, and not a fit fight for an up and comer with such talent as Mayweather.

It was the same with Castillo, I think he'd had about 6-7 losses at that time, and had been Julio Caesar Chavez" chief sparring partner for most of his career, more than he was an actual fighter, and was thought to be "worn out". That was nearly another disaster where the Brains Trust miscalculated.

As it turned out, he luckily stopped Augustus in, I think, the 9th (a body shot?) and maybe that his promoter at the time of the Castillo fight was Top Rank (I think) may have just won him that fight which so many thought he lost.

I was one of them, although I believe he won the return, (wider than the official cards).

You guys should look up the Augustus fight. i think it was the best fight I ever saw Mayweather in, and he fought like a real fighter.