better resume..hopkins,pacman

[Guest]

I doubt it went over anyones head.

I mean, it's pretty clear cut what they are implying.

I don't know man. William Bo James and Joe Lipsey were two fantasy fight legend killers.

[cupocity303]

That's not really scientific fact.

It's harder to move up weight-classes successfuly in the lower weights than it is in the higher weights.

Why do I say that? Because, check how many 5 division champs there are to fighters who fought form LW and higher, to fighters who fought LW and lower.

That has nothing to do with science and difference in size , but more with Boxing politics. Little guys happy holding on to whatever titles they win and defend it.

Just ask Flyweight titlist Pongsaklek Wonjongkam about it.

Or how about the Indonesian cat who co-owns the Featherweight belt with Gamboa. Politics.

[jrosales13]

Really smaller fighters don't move up in weight as much successfully. And, it has to be for a reason. Maybe there bone density or what have you. Because, yea it's like 4 pounds or so. But, if it was nothing. Then there would be many more 3-5 divisional champions at the lower weights than there is at the higher weights. But, there are more 3-5 divisional champions at the higher weights than the lower weights. And, that has to be for a reason.

[-Kev-]

Lets talk scientific facts also. If we do some boxrec research, both Tito and Barrera have alot of Title defenses at the weight classes they competet. Barrera at Super-Bantam, Tito at Welterweight.

Both are multi-division champs, but this where my points comes. There is a much greater gap going up from 147 to 154 and then to 160 to win a title, then there is to go up from 122 to 126 and 130 (Super-Feather). That's a TOTAL OF 7 POUNDS. All those guys are essentially the same size.

Now from 147 to 154 is already a gap of 7 pounds, and then to 160, another 6 pounds. A total of 13 pounds. Fighters feel the size difference at anything above 135. That's why Jr.Welterweights are reluctant to go up to 147.

Tito's rise in weight is much more impressive than Barrera's three division reign that consists of 7 pounds of difference in total.

I always complained about the lower weights having too many weight classes.

It's like 120 is a weight class, then 121 is another weight class, 123, another weight class, 124, 125, 126..weight class galore. Go up 1 pound, another weight class.

[jrosales13]

That has nothing to do with science and difference in size , but more with Boxing politics. Little guys happy holding on to whatever titles they win and defend it.

Just ask Flyweight titlist Pongsaklek Wonjongkam about it.

Oh OK,

sigh...I guess man.

[jrosales13]

Anyways, I haven't really said who has the better resume. But, yea I go with Pac.

From the last 15 years. I say is Pac>Jones>Hopkins>Floyd. In terms of resume and accomplishments.

[IronDanHamza]

That has nothing to do with science and difference in size , but more with Boxing politics. Little guys happy holding on to whatever titles they win and defend it.

Just ask Flyweight titlist Pongsaklek Wonjongkam about it.

Or how about the Indonesian cat who co-owns the Featherweight belt with Gamboa. Politics.

You mean Flyweight Lineal Champion?

Wonjongkam is the Lineal Flyweight champion so yeah I'm pretty sure he's happy as hell to hold on to that.

[MaD RoBoT]

Pac's resume>>>>Bhop's resume

but Bhop's "welterweight" run is more impressive tho

[cupocity303]

Really smaller fighters don't move up in weight as much successfully. And, it has to be for a reason. Maybe there bone density or what have you. Because, yea it's like 4 pounds or so. But, if it was nothing. Then there would be many more 3-5 divisional champions at the lower weights than there is at the higher weights. But, there are more 3-5 divisional champions at the higher weights than the lower weights. And, that has to be for a reason.

Check post above you.

Do I need to fish up some more Asian WBC Title holders, who will hold those titles hostage until retirement. It's politics at lower divisions. They don't get as much exposure as the Welter and Junior Middles of the world, so they don't dump their belts as easily and go fishing for belts at other weight classes.

They're contempt staying where they are and milking it for every dollar. Has nothing to do with size.

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[quote=cupocity303;10325285]
Check post above you.

Do I need to fish up some more Asian WBC Title holders, who will hold those titles hostage until retirement. It's politics at lower divisions. They don't get as much exposure as the Welter and Junior Middles of the world, so they don't dump their belts as easily and go fishing for belts at other weight classes.

They're contempt staying where they are and milking it for every dollar. Has nothing to do with size. [/quote
Wongjongkam doesn't suck, in the event you were implying that. :]