Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: Pacquiao Must Impress or I'm The Best!

[megas30]

the problem with P4P rankings is its like our butts. Every boxing fan has one and most likely everyone's list differs.

I'm basing my comments on the Ring magazine's list.

According to ring magazine, Pac is still #1 P4P as of March 6, 2011 and has been in the list for an unmatched 379 weeks!

the closest anyone is to that number is Juan Manuel Marquez at 208.

floyd jr is listed at #2 and has been in the list for only 77 weeks.


i CANNOT say for sure that this means pac has been #1 longer than floyd jr. since the list only says how long they've been in the P4P list, NOT how long they've been in their current position, since people tend to go up and down the list, depending on their performance.

but if i would bet, i'm pretty sure it would be safe to say that Pac has been #1 longer than floyd.

UPDATE:

hmmmm.... pac has been #1 P4P at ring magazine since nov 11, 2008, and remained there until now.

http://www.east side boxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103560

so simplifying that :

nov 11, 2008 to dec 31, 2008 = 6 weeks #1 P4P
whole of 2009 = 52 weeks #1 P4P
whole of 2010 = 52 weeks #1 P4P = 110 weeks

so 2008 to 2010 ALONE pac has been #1 LONGER than floyd jr has been in the list (which is 77 weeks)

This makes no sense. 52 weeks make a year. Floyd been on this list since he beat Corrales or probable earlier, and thats like 10 years ago. 10 X 52= 520 weeks. As far as being number one, that is since the hopkins' loss. But, to the original question he has to be in the top ten longer than 77 weeks.

That list sounds as if it's recounting everytime Mayweather says he's retired.

[bluetuazon]

Having a DRAW against Cintron, going 1-1 with Williams, Beating Bhop's Leftovers and finally Beating an unknown Jr. Middleweight who came up to Middleweight is POUND for POUND #1? I DONT ****ING THINK SO.......Sergio should hang out with Manny and let the Humility Rub off on him....

^^^^^^thank you.....................i love sergio and i think he is a beast...but cmon now bandwagon jumpers!!

[mbaron8]

Martinez needs to impress..

So, how the **** does martinez think he accomplished something by defeating a 35 yo junior middleweight that nobody's heard of? Lets see, Pacquiao's last fight was against Antonio Margarito, a man that outweighed him by 17 pounds and who tko'd this idiot martinez. Now, who is the one that needs to impress?? Both martinez and dibella need to shut the f@ck up and fight some real opponents before they can even consider maravilla to be better than mayweather or pac! Period!

[bluetuazon]

Sergio is number one pac fought clottey cheato and now mosley none of those guys fought pac coming off wins none of those guys had belts come on *******s martinez ko pwill beat pavlik and now took out one of the best jabbers and made him fall like 8 times come on martinez is snatching *****s belts easy and doing it the right way earning it not like pac with catchweight and free wbc belts

ur an idiot....pwill and sergio fought in a catchweight...with the made up diamond wbc belt...get out of here before my pitbull eats a chunk of ur ass....and stop plucking ur eyebrows too!!

[bluetuazon]

Ummmm..... Manny Pacquiao DID NOT beat Floyd Mayweather Jr for the top spot. Thanks for pointing that out.

but pac didnt retire either grus so whats ur point????

[bluetuazon]

How do you rate them against Cotto (145 after Margarito), reluctant Clottey (Who NEVER won a big fight) and Margarito (A guy who got caught cheating. KO'd and suspended in the same night, then fought a no name and didn't even look good doing it). Are you trying to tell me that those past Pac opponents are better than Williams, Pavlik and Dzinziruk?

thank you for pointing that out grus...so u mean sergios resume is better than pac??

[bluetuazon]

Ok let me play this game:
Going life and death with marquez both times, beating Diaz a poor bum, Fighting mayweather's Leftovers in hatton, and de la hoya (not to mention he drained de la hoya to 147 a weight which he hadn't competed in 8 odd years!!!), fighting Margarito's Leftover in cotto (coming off brutal loss and life and death with clottey), fighting a bum clottey at 147 but with cotto at 145???fighting mosley Leftover in margarito who got destroyed by mosley, (PAC fights guys coming off devastating losses), and now another mayweather leftover in mosley (dismantled by mayweather, don't even need to mention Mora).......
See I could play this silly game of yours too fool! Hit me up with red K I don't give a damn *******!

he drained DLH?? man i stopped reading back there..this means dont know ****..get the fack out and let the big boys do the talking....WTF?? pac draining DLH???

[bluetuazon]

yes he is who has pac fought to maintain the number 1 spot?? nobody. really pac will never fight sergio because hell get ktfo, aside from the far superior comp martinez has beat, pac not even considering a fight with him should make it that much more obvious that pac isnt the best but relys heavily on the hype train.pac wont fight mayweather to cement his supremacy due to drug tests , and he refuses to fight top guys like 5 in a row of no-hopers now, so the question begs why is pac number 1 if in recent years he hasnt fought anybody at the elite level???in years. whats next cotto 2 or jmm3 or margs 2 ???martinez like it or not at this time is number 1. mayweather and pac are running from him not the other way around and simply hes beat bigger and better comp.pac also ran from williams , and would never even dare to fight a pavlik ,pac will only face a 154lber with no chance , face it dude only a ****** cant see through the bs.

dude ur a ******...true story..read ur post again and smell the coffee.......oh well i should not be responding to u anymore..damn.. mad a mistake by talking to a ******...

[beatnutts]

again my friend...manny earned to fight for money now.....he earned his stripes the hard way....there is nothing that can change that morales, barrera and marquez is better than p.will, pavlik and DZ....cmon now son...manny earned his status years ago!! no doubt sergio is good..he is on a roll,,but he should be fighting north...

You make no sense. Those fights happened 3 years ago. Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever but you try to focus on right now. For the past two years, Sergioi Martinez has fought better guys than anyone else. I mean, why the hell do you think he won fighter of the year last year? Because boxing experts agreed that he fought the best and won against them. If you wanna talk about 3 years ago, then fine, Manny is the king. He won fighter of the decade and he more than deserves it but for the last two years, no one has done better than Sergio Martinez. I really don't know why the hell you guys can't appreciate what he has done.

Most of you Pac fans hate Mayweather because i agree, he's been fighting bums for years now and selects his opponents carefully but Sergio does the complete opposite. He fought tough champs that others avoid and has looked impressive in all of the fights.

[bluetuazon]

I'm not hating. I just think Pac is coasting thru lesser opponents for easy bread. People like sergio and cotto are a dying breed because they personify what a champion is all about. Taking on all comers. Who gives a shyt how many straps Manny wins it's about the quality, not the quantity of opposition. When you throw someone like Martinez in with Dzinziruk it's easy to judge the loser as being inferior/bum whatever because the landscape changes and suddenly it's a B-guy against a world class boxer displaying his superior skill but under different circumstances you might be surprised that the once undefeated journeyman is actually decent in his other fights. So yea experts/analysts/observers can overlook the younger untested guys all they want but that gives them no right to single out a good challenge when it presents itself. Cotto was a 10-1 favorite to smoke Mayorga on Sat but the fight actually went down the stretch...upsets happen and Pac should be no exception to that. I say stop protecting him, Arum, pick someone who will push him to the edge. Wonder how fast Valero would have rocketed up the pound for pound ranks if he'd managed to secure a fight with pac and managed to KO him @ welter..

bro...manny has earned his stripes........live with it....wars with morales, barrera and marquez alone beats cotto and sergios resume...