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  • Dont people in the super middleweight super 6 competiton have to fight consecutively better opponents and better opponents than Sergio has? The competiion has the best fighters in the division.

    Who has Sergio fought that is so great?

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    • Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
      im NOT CRYING DUMB AZ
      JUST STATING A FACT
      FLOYD WENT UP TO 154 TO FIGHT OSCAR FOR HIS BELT AT 154
      BACK COULDNT DO IT AND FOUGHT FOR A BELT NEITHER ONE DESERVED OR EARNED A SHOT AT

      WHAT I CANT ACCEPT IS THAT PAC WANTS ALL THE ADVANTAGES IN ALL HIS FIGHTS. WHEN DID OSCAR EVER ASK FOR ALL THE ADVANTAGES AND AS FAR AS CASH COW GOES HE IS SECOND ONLY TO IRON MIKE AND BARELY

      PAC CANT EVEN HOLD OSCARS JOCK STRAP WHEN IT COMES TO REVENUE

      WHY DIDNT PAC FIGHT MOSLEY WHEN SSM OFFERED TO COME IN AT 142?

      CAUSE ROACH SAID HE IS TOO GOOD. NOW THAT HE IS 2 YEARS OLDER AND WAY PAST IT THEY WANT TO TAKE HIM ON INSTEAD OF TAKING ON A YONG LION WITH SPEED AND POWER. IF PAC WERE AS GOOD AS YOU ALL CLAIM THEN HE COULD FIGHT NOBODIES AND MAKE BANK ALA OSCAR VS MAYORGA (OVER 900K PPVS) INSTEAD HE CHOOSES PAST PRIME SLOW FORWARD COMING NO DEFENSE FIGHTERS WHO HAVE NOT LOOKED IMPRESSIVE IN THEIR LAST FIGHTS.

      IMO IF PAC WERE TO BEAT A BERTO, KHAN, ALEXANDER, ORTIZ, JUDAH, BRADLEY (ANY ONE NOT ALL) I WOULD GIVE HIM MORE RESPECT AND SO WOULD THE BOXING WORLD CAUSE HE WOULD TAKE ON A REAL CHALLENGE A LIVE OPPONENT.
      u really think that all of the guys that u mentioned has a chance against him?? seriously bro??

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      • Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
        u really think that all of the guys that u mentioned has a chance against him?? seriously bro??
        i don't think Bradley or Berto can beat Manny but whats the difference between them and Margarito and Mosley? To me, Bradley isnt that great and Berto needs to fight better guys but Margarito before he fought Manny fought only once at 154 and didn't even look that good, got knocked out by Mosley, and suspended for a year for trying to cheat. Mosley has lost 3 of his last 6 fights and looked like complete crap against Mora. So how are those guys that clearly has looked like complete dog **** for a while now any better than Berto or Bradley?

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        • Originally posted by War Aficionado View Post
          Maybe because it's rapidly becoming one of the most hottest debates in the boxing right now? After all, this larger than life filipino that ignorant posters make out as being untouchable, he won't always be number 1. Maybe this is a sign of the times. For being a 35 yr old man, Serg is doing well for himself in the sport. At 5'10, he's shorter than margarito and given his wins in both JM, and MW Martinez shows he can alternate between two weights. He went up in search of glory, and he got it. Now that he wants to call out Pac people are saying he's too big? He's too big and yet he's "making history in eight divisions" fighting giants ..gimme a break. Thats just about as phony as Mayweather blasting everyone about his perfect rec. I said it b4 and I'll say it again, it's about the quality of the fights, not the quantity
          Pac is scared to move up again and he's said it. It was a mistake to win that belt and the commission should reprimand him for misleading the public. Martinez is with range of Pac and he knows it..dudes just scared. Like he was against Yuri Foreman LOL
          may i remind you that we have weightclasses....margarito is a career welterweight and sergio is a JMM....so there is a big difference here...cmon now bro...so now pac has to fight a fighter 2 division higher to prove he is the best?? can martinez do the same?? fight ward, bute??

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          • Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
            was DZ i the top 5?
            Yes he was a top and world champion and as for selective memory who has Pac fought that was the best in his division lately? or are we still discussing the past when it comes to Pac?

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            • Originally posted by beatnutts View Post
              You make no sense. Those fights happened 3 years ago. Manny is an all time great and one of the best ever but you try to focus on right now. For the past two years, Sergioi Martinez has fought better guys than anyone else. I mean, why the hell do you think he won fighter of the year last year? Because boxing experts agreed that he fought the best and won against them. If you wanna talk about 3 years ago, then fine, Manny is the king. He won fighter of the decade and he more than deserves it but for the last two years, no one has done better than Sergio Martinez. I really don't know why the hell you guys can't appreciate what he has done.

              Most of you Pac fans hate Mayweather because i agree, he's been fighting bums for years now and selects his opponents carefully but Sergio does the complete opposite. He fought tough champs that others avoid and has looked impressive in all of the fights.
              those are sergios signiture wins...he beat pavlik and williams..who else??

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              • Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
                funny how u mentioned catchweights...didnt sergio beat pwill in a catchweight?? hmm...ironic isnt it?? people making such a big deal about catchweights...as long as there is no belt on the line catchweight is fine by me..
                Williams asked for that catchweight not Martinez

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                • Originally posted by beatnutts View Post
                  bluetaezon

                  So just because Manny fought those great guys 3 years ago, he can now do what he wants? That makes no sense at all. So based on your rationale, even if Sergio fights the best level fighters, he'll never be considered p4p best because of what Manny did 3 years ago? Holy ****!
                  we are talking about resume here since u are talking about competion....my point is pac already earned his stripes....sergio is just on his way up...IF SERGIO WOULD BEAT BUTE, PIROG, WARD ETC. he will be no doubt number one p4p...the question is this...pwill and pavlik...who else has sergio beaten?? i love sergio dont mistake me of hating..i love seing him fight..but lets be realistic here..who has he beaten aside from the two??

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                  • but who is to fight at welterweight bro?? mosley is the last one...berto is busy fighting tomato cans...u want manny to call up ligtweights and jww??

                    on the otherside...the fued between arum and goldenboy has to stop..bro im ot a diehard pacfan...i dont like the margarito and mosley fights...but hey cmon how could u hate a guy who earned his stripes the hardway...he earned it bro...if he is fighting bums now for millions its because he was fighting the hard fights before for peanuts...and as a boxing fan u should know this..

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                    • Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
                      may i remind you that we have weightclasses....margarito is a career welterweight and sergio is a JMM....so there is a big difference here...cmon now bro...so now pac has to fight a fighter 2 division higher to prove he is the best?? can martinez do the same?? fight ward, bute??
                      didnt Pac win the title that Martinez let go less than a year ago? Or is it that he was at a catchweight fighting not a real champion but someone who wasnt ranked at the time in Margarito and then let the belt go so he can claim to have 8 division titles? But now Pac is to small and shame on Matinez for wanting to fight him. He must move up to prove he is the best. So maybe fight garbage in the upper classes to pad his legacy. Right?

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