Martinez is seriously making his case as No. 1 P4P

[Khalid X]

ummm dude...so all the ppl that are claiming that Floyd is waiting foe Manny to get old are inconsistent too rite??? U do realize things change, fighters change, they get older, some get bigger etc. Ur stanism is blinding u n making u spit out some lame arguments

Please provided proof of Manny ducking Marquez because I can sure as hell provide proof of Marquez pricing himself out and killing the fight on three different occasions.

[Seleção No. 13]

Clottey and Margo top of their weight classes

Sad to say this, but Margarito was I think #1 or in the top 3 eligible for the WBC Junior Middleweight title while Manny was not. Cintron was supposed to fight Margarito for it after Sergio vacated but he hates his guts.

edit: Clottey was also top 5 Welterweight at least.

[Mr. Philadel]

Manny had the p4p list on lock BEFORE and AFTER he gave Cotto the business...but since then....his p4p rivals have had better wins....Floyd's win over Shane trumps Manny's Clottey/Margarito events IMO....Sergio dustin' off Pavlik and KOing P-Will trumps Manny's last 3 or 4....I still got Manny at the top spot...BUT its gettin' hard to keep him there IMO....AFTER Shane knocks him out...Sergio will be the dude and it won't be no doubt about it

[ShoguNinja]

Before Martinez can even be considered #1 P4P, he should fight and beat Andre Ward and not challenge guys who are smaller than him. Pacquiao done it by fighting guys or even knocking those bigger guys out. Then Martinez wants to be recognized as the #1 P4P by challenging smaller guys or beating average guys?! Wow, Thats Insanely ******?!

[Khalid X]

Manny had the p4p list on lock BEFORE and AFTER he gave Cotto the business...but since then....his p4p rivals have had better wins....Floyd's win over Shane trumps Manny's Clottey/Margarito events IMO....Sergio dustin' off Pavlik and KOing P-Will trumps Manny's last 3 or 4....I still got Manny at the top spot...BUT its gettin' hard to keep him there IMO....AFTER Shane knocks him out...Sergio will be the dude and it won't be no doubt about it

Well if Manny faces Marquez and then Cotto then he will be out my top 3 p4p....and if he gets KOd by Shane he drops out my top 5.

Not saying Shane is a bad fighter but a KO loss clearly drops him way down the list.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Yeah, because Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey were such awful fighters. Except before the fight when people picked them to win. And those fights were within the last two years.

I'll say this, if Martinez gets one more impressive win over someone worthwhile, and Pacquiao doesn't fight either Mayweather or Berto after this Mosley sham, I think Martinez should move to number one.

This I totally agree with..But I don't wanna see Berto to be honest,JMM the winner of Khan Bradley,or even go back to 154lb and fight Martinez..People saying Pac is too small for Martinez need to stop,Martinez is smaller then everyone of his last 5 opponents and Pac just fought a way bigger fighter in Marga's..Pac needs to challenge his self,Mosley might be a tougher fight then a lot of people think,but Mosley at this stage of his career won't have enough to go 12 rds to beat Pac..I don't know if Mosley will be stopped but I do believe he will lose(and that's saying a lot because Mosley is my fav fighter)..But I agree Pac needs to fight a stiff challenge after this fight..

BTW I just want to repeat not Berta though he has some proven to do of his own before he can even say Pac's name..Or any other top level fighter imo..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Manny had the p4p list on lock BEFORE and AFTER he gave Cotto the business...but since then....his p4p rivals have had better wins....Floyd's win over Shane trumps Manny's Clottey/Margarito events IMO....Sergio dustin' off Pavlik and KOing P-Will trumps Manny's last 3 or 4....I still got Manny at the top spot...BUT its gettin' hard to keep him there IMO....AFTER Shane knocks him out...Sergio will be the dude and it won't be no doubt about it

The problem is the boxing public wanted Pac May so bad and since we are not getting it they have been calling for Pac Martinez..This fight is very interesting and could get done(being the fact Pac just fought at 154lb)imo Pac is clearly the #1 P4P fighter in the sport but it's becoming a tight race for the top spot..I only see a lost taking Pac out of the top spot for me..

[straightleft]

These *****s have selective memories. Martinez beating 3 guys in one division doesn't translate him automatically being a no.1 p4p now. He did not even cracked the list being a p4p#10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2, for quite sometimes suddenly he is now the p4p#1 bypassing everyone. lol!

[Khalid X]

This I totally agree with..But I don't wanna see Berto to be honest,JMM the winner of Khan Bradley,or even go back to 154lb and fight Martinez..People saying Pac is too small for Martinez need to stop,Martinez is smaller then everyone of his last 5 opponents and Pac just fought a way bigger fighter in Marga's..Pac needs to challenge his self,Mosley might be a tougher fight then a lot of people think,but Mosley at this stage of his career won't have enough to go 12 rds to beat Pac..I don't know if Mosley will be stopped but I do believe he will lose(and that's saying a lot because Mosley is my fav fighter)..But I agree Pac needs to fight a stiff challenge after this fight..

BTW I just want to repeat not Berta though he has some proven to do of his own before he can even say Pac's name..Or any other top level fighter imo..

I really don't wanna see Marquez or the Berto fight but atleast with Berto it's an undefeated fighter, and after KOing him there won't be any other top WW's outside of Floyd.

I see it playing out like this:
Khan bests Bradley decisively and Manny faces Berto. Then hopefully it Floyd or Martinez because logically there aren't any other fights that would make sense, legacy and money wise.

[AnthalaX]

Real P4P = Who would win Pac vs Sergio if they were at the same weight class...