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  • #91
    Originally posted by chiguy91 View Post
    wtf, then why did donaire get bumped from 5 to 3? because he just had a tremendous win. sergei might not be known, but dude is undefeated for a reason, let alone never being knocked down (am or pro). im sure the ring will bump up pac to 1 when he finishes mosley. **** i won't be surprise if martinez doesn't even move. donaire and martinez are on fire, you can't base fighters on what they did in 09. clottey and margs are good fighters. big names, but if you thought they were threats to pac, well thats just laughable (like people saying mosley/pac is going to be close for a while) get real man...
    Lots of fail in this post.

    I'm still waiting for someone to name the most notable win for Sergey and to tell me when his last fight at MW was. Donaire beating Montiel, the way he did it, is infinitely more impressive than a win over some guy whose name no one can pronounce or even heard of before last week.

    And people get caught up with undefeated records too much. It's quality over quantity. Why isn't Tim Bradley #1 after beating Lamont Peterson (27-0), Abregu (29-0, at WW), and Alexander (21-0) in succession? Peterson and Alexander are better quality wins than Dzinziruk, have more quality wins against good opposition, are undefeated, and Bradley beat them at their weight.

    See how easy it is to blow things out of proportion?

    Good win for Sergio, but come on.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
      Yeah people are just throwing rocks at the throne

      Martinez top five wins (in his entire career)
      1. Kelly Pavlik
      2. Sergei Dzinziruk
      3. Paul Williams
      4. Alex Bunema
      5. Russell Jordan

      Maybe if Martinez picks up 2-3 more greats wins this MIGHT be a debate but no way in hell does 3 hot wins surpass a decade of dominance.
      That's so ****** man, what does a decade of dominance have to do with anything? It's about whats being done recently. So your saying that Pacquiao should be able to hold on to what he's accomplished in the past?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by joelab75 View Post
        yeah Sergio dominated a guy who hasnt fought in a middleweight division while Pac dominated a bigger guy while going up 1 division. Sergei didnt even have a puncher chance. Sergei wasnt rank in the middleweight and not even a top 5 in his own division.
        what bigger guy??? margarito??? if u think pacs win over margarito is better than sergio's win over dinzurik then im not even gonna respond to u. ur a tard and thats inexcusable.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
          Lots of fail in this post.

          I'm still waiting for someone to name the most notable win for Sergey and to tell me when his last fight at MW was. Donaire beating Montiel, the way he did it, is infinitely more impressive than a win over some guy whose name no one can pronounce or even heard of before last week.

          And people get caught up with undefeated records too much. It's quality over quantity. Why isn't Tim Bradley #1 after beating Lamont Peterson (27-0), Abregu (29-0, at WW), and Alexander (21-0) in succession? Peterson and Alexander are better quality wins than Dzinziruk, have more quality wins against good opposition, are undefeated, and Bradley beat them at their weight.

          See how easy it is to blow things out of proportion?

          Good win for Sergio, but come on.
          Exactly

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          • #95
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
            p4p is not based on resumes...its clearly based on skill and more so on what have u done for me lately. martinez is dominating fighters, fighters that havent been dominated in the past. and hes doing it with skill and power. pac is fighting mosely...i mean like wtf?? call a spade a spade.
            No way, man. Pac has been fighting better quality opponents. No one knows any of Sergio's last three opponents.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
              your arguing atg status dumbass theirs a difference. pacs clearly a higher ranked atg no argument but p4p today this and year and last sergio has faced better opposition and won more impressively than manny.
              Atleast some get it!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                what bigger guy??? margarito??? if u think pacs win over margarito is better than sergio's win over dinzurik then im not even gonna respond to u. ur a tard and thats inexcusable.
                Cool, so you think a win over Dzinziruk (hope I'm spelling that right, but who knows? ) is better than one against Margarito? Really?

                Name the best opponent he has beaten or faced, then tell me when his last fight at MW was before tonight.

                I can wait...

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                • #98
                  by *****s logic. once Berto beat Ortiz he should be in the top 10 P4P. because Ortiz is a Jr. Welterweight who will go up one division to fight Berto. on top of that Ortiz is not rank in the welterweight and not even a top 5 boxers in his own division.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
                    your arguing atg status dumbass theirs a difference. pacs clearly a higher ranked atg no argument but p4p today this and year and last sergio has faced better opposition and won more impressively than manny.
                    No idiot, I actually touched that as well. How is the Pavlik victory better than the Hatton victory or the Williams victory better than Cotto.

                    Also while Dzin is good, he hasn't had a serious fight in almost three years, and that was against Joel Julio, and was brought up to a class he never fought at.

                    It seems you d1ck riders like to play the discredit game, and when the same things can be apply to Sergio and his recent wins.


                    Btw you claim Mosley and Margarito are joke opponents yet what is Chavez Jr as Martinez next opponent or worst Andy lee, a fight Martinez would jump on in a heart beat instead of manning up and facing Pirog.

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                    • Sergio is a beast...believe it haters!!!

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