Martinez is seriously making his case as No. 1 P4P

[pasawayako]

everybody knows this guys a joke right?

You're talking to yourself right?

[mushahadeen]

Martinez is seriously making his case as No. 1 P4P

ya he's making his case as No. 1 P4P ****head.

woooooow he beats up on european bums n calls out fighters 2 weight classes below him wowwwwwww.

guarantee he'll never fite JCCj cuz he'd b exposed.

[straightleft]

If you wanna big-note what Pac has done,you may want to mention how he has lost in the lighter weights,and to whom!

Currently,Martinez is facing higher quality(primed) and stopping them,while some idiots give Manny a pass at fighting proven-spent opponents,or suggesting that if he doesn't struggle against shot-to **** Mosely (who the **** actually thinks Mosely will make Manny struggle anyways??????!!!!),that he deserves to stay at the top.Current p4p rankings are what you continue to do,not exclusive on past glories.

You missed my point dude. If you roll back in time when Pac just beat Barrera in 2003 it is much the same scenario or much better than what Martinez did today but nobody has telling Pac a p4p fighter in 2003. Maybe for popularity contest because beating 3 fighters in the same division that you can't even call them great, HOF, etc. at 160 simply you can't compare to beating the lineal champ at 112, no.1 at 122, and the lineal champ HOF Barrera at 126. Pac will remain no.1 until someone beat him because Martinez beating 3 men at his own size in the same division pale in comparison than Pac beating Hatton at 140, Cotto at 145, Clottey at 147 and Margsrito at 150

[ThePrince]

the man is still relevant in his division and was the best opposition that would face sergio.

The key term being his division, which is JMW.

top rank wont deal with sergio anymore because hes to good.

Sampson Lewkowicz (Martinez's lawyer/adviser): "I have a verbal agreement from Bob Arum that Cotto will fight Sergio in September"

and pacs victory over margarito isnt that good when you consider where margarito was at in his career when he fought him. a knock out loss to old mosley then a year suspension because he was caught with plaster which puts his entire relevant career into question. then he comes back at a weight class wheres hes not that good to go the distance with garcia (yeah i remember that bums name) then fights pac at a catch weight for sergios belt that wbc made him forfit. thats the pac victory your arguing is better than maravillas over dzizuruks right?

Yeah, that's the one. Margarito was the most feared man in all of boxing and beat the likes of Cotto, Cintron, Martinez, etc. Losing to a HOFer in Mosley doesn't change the fact that he is a tough SOB who only knows how to come forward and never stops fighting. He was in the best shape of his career and had 17 lbs on Pac in the ring. Dzinzurik has beaten... His advantage over the much bigger Sergio was...

Please, feel free to fill in the blanks.

[joelab75]

You missed my point dude. If you roll back in time when Pac just beat Barrera in 2003 it is much the same scenario or much better than what Martinez did today but nobody has telling Pac a p4p fighter in 2003. Maybe for popularity contest because beating 3 fighters in the same division that you can't even call them great, HOF, etc. at 160 simply you can't compare to beating the lineal champ at 112, no.1 at 122, and the lineal champ HOF Barrera at 126.

Pac haters has no logic. all they think about is how to hate on Pac.

when Pac beat a #3 P4P Barrera no one was talking about him becoming number 1 or even number 3 but when Sergio beat Dzinziruk or Donaire beat Montiel? suddenly they were supposed to be number 1 P4P.

Pac has been consistent, winning division after division and only a loss would drop him from number 1.

[Canelo Phresh]

So let me get this straight....all you guys claim Martinez should be higher because it's about "what have you done lately". That's cool but in doing so you guys are contradicting yourselves because with that logic the Pavlik and Dzin wins are that great because Pav's win over Taylor was how long ago and what has he done since then.

What about Dzin? again you guys bring up Santos and how long ago was that, and what has he done since then?

Again you guys like to discredit Manny but we can easily do the same for Martinez and his opponents. Atleast be consistant.

How yo gonna talk about what have you done lately yet use victories from 03-07 as reason these guys are legit fighters yet say what Manny did in 08-09 doesn't count when ranking these guys p4p.

Also you guys use the Marg, and Floyd loses to discredit Manny's opponent yet disregard Williams getting embarrassed by Quintana and outboxed cintron as well as Pavliks dominating loss to an old @ss Bernard Hopkins.

please i know your smarter than this. please offer an argument as to why hes still p4p #1 not why pac is atg

[Alibata]

LOL, Don't know why people take *****s seriously... Dumb ass thread *****s have a ball in dumb ass threads.

[Canelo Phresh]

The key term being his division, which is JMW.



Sampson Lewkowicz (Martinez's lawyer/adviser): "I have a verbal agreement from Bob Arum that Cotto will fight Sergio in September"




Yeah, that's the one. Margarito was the most feared man in all of boxing and beat the likes of Cotto, Cintron, Martinez, etc. Losing to a HOFer in Mosley doesn't change the fact that he is a tough SOB who only knows how to come forward and never stops fighting. He was in the best shape of his career and had 17 lbs on Pac in the ring. Dzinzurik has beaten... His advantage over the much bigger Sergio was...

Please, feel free to fill in the blanks.

top rank wont let jccj near martinez. cotto is gonna rematch marg dont play ******. and your once again offering a career is better argument than timing argument on margarito. sorry but margarito at 154lbs after a ko loss year suspension and a gone the distance fight with club fighter garcia is not etter than dzinzuruk. you *******s live in an imaginary world where pac faced the margarito fresh off of the cotto victory and cotto fresh off the mosley victory and etc etc etc. timing is important in when you fight a great fighter not just that you fought him at the ends of their careers.

[Khalid X]

please i know your smarter than this. please offer an argument as to why hes still p4p #1 not why pac is atg

My problem with this is you guys need to set some type of parameter and stick to it. As soon as something disproves your argument, you guys switch it up to fit an agenda.

Which one is it?

Is it what have you done lately, or are we gonna do it like it's always been done and judge a fighters body of work over the past 2-3 years

As soon as you pick one then I will proceed to rip your logic to pieces.

[Canelo Phresh]

LOL, Don't know why people take *****s seriously... Dumb ass thread *****s have a ball in dumb ass threads.

whatever you do dont offer the better atg resume in this argument because thats all the rest of the *******s of offered in this thread.