Martinez is seriously making his case as No. 1 P4P

[ThePrince]

oh so ur argument is based off me spelling his name wrong and talking about his body of work, all of which has not occured within the 2-3 yr time frame i mentioned before pac fought him??

dude, u dont have an argument. in fact i take that back...u imagined ur argument.

My dude, how hard is it? Just tell me who the biggest/best win is on the man's record and when the last time was he fought as a MW before tonight.

You can use boxrec if you're stuck. I won't tell anyone you're cheating:



Make sure you get his name right when you type it into google though.

[Canelo Phresh]

yeah current like what kids around here define as the last fight.

well theyres a whole bunch of tards arguing atg status against people arguing p4p status in here. and '09 victories arent current.

[damned1974]

Very true I agree its a current thing.

But Manny has done so much, he is the one guy who can hold the top spot imo. I agree Clottey and Mosley are a joke, But hes done it in a dominating way.

Hes the only guy I let stay on top for past achievements because he hasnt slowed down one bit. Mayweather is off the list imo.

I don't give one guy exclusive rights or passes,nor advantages on p4p lists. You can't live off of past glories and remain at the top-you have to currently fight top fighters as well,not duds or losers or cheap victories with demands.

You have to prove your skills against the best available fights,with Sergio-nobody has to beg him to fight the best available fights,whereas with Manny,he goes out of his way to take the fights that hold no relevance.

Floyd can reasonably be taken off of most lists in May (and dropped in the current ratings),which was the time of his last fight.

[Canelo Phresh]

My dude, how hard is it? Just tell me who the biggest/best win is on the man's record and when the last time was he fought as a MW before tonight.

You can use boxrec if you're stuck. I won't tell anyone you're cheating:



Make sure you get his name right when you type it into google though.

ur still arguing that pac beating past prime and cheater exposed marg is relevant?

[nujabes77]

people on here are either trolling or are just plain ******... not even sure if they know the meaning of the title 'p4p'


if pacquiao and maritnez were the same size, martinez wouldnt beat pacquiao. you are kidding yourself if you say otherwise

[ThePrince]

ur still arguing that pac beating past prime and cheater exposed marg is relevant?

Nah, just waiting on someone to explain to me how beating some guy whose name they don't even know, who has fought absolutely no one, who hasn't fought as a MW makes you #1 P4P.

So, do you want to take a crack at it?

[Canelo Phresh]

Nah, just waiting on someone to explain to me how beating some guy whose name they don't even know, who has fought absolutely no one, who hasn't fought as a MW makes you #1 P4P.

So, do you want to take a crack at it?

the man is still relevant in his division and was the best opposition that would face sergio. top rank wont deal with sergio anymore because hes to good. and pacs victory over margarito isnt that good when you consider where margarito was at in his career when he fought him. a knock out loss to old mosley then a year suspension because he was caught with plaster which puts his entire relevant career into question. then he comes back at a weight class wheres hes not that good to go the distance with garcia (yeah i remember that bums name) then fights pac at a catch weight for sergios belt that wbc made him forfit. thats the pac victory your arguing is better than maravillas over dzizuruks right?

[pasawayako]

awright sergio martinez is now number 1 P4P after he disposed of driwirinterenunuk... dirwinteruk.. dzitreintiniruk(whats his name again?) nah whatever..,. yahoooo!!!!

[Canelo Phresh]

everybody knows this guys a joke right?

[Khalid X]

So let me get this straight....all you guys claim Martinez should be higher because it's about "what have you done lately". That's cool but in doing so you guys are contradicting yourselves because with that logic the Pavlik and Dzin wins are that great because Pav's win over Taylor was how long ago and what has he done since then.

What about Dzin? again you guys bring up Santos and how long ago was that, and what has he done since then?

Again you guys like to discredit Manny but we can easily do the same for Martinez and his opponents. Atleast be consistant.

How yo gonna talk about what have you done lately yet use victories from 03-07 as reason these guys are legit fighters yet say what Manny did in 08-09 doesn't count when ranking these guys p4p.

Also you guys use the Marg, and Floyd loses to discredit Manny's opponent yet disregard Williams getting embarrassed by Quintana and outboxed cintron as well as Pavliks dominating loss to an old @ss Bernard Hopkins.