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  • #51
    Originally posted by Libra_Por_Libra View Post
    Sergio is already the best fighter in the world and he's the #1 p4p fighter in the world.

    Sergio is not only beating very good fighters, but he dominating and doing things to them that people did not expect him to do.

    Sergio is putting on better performances and beating guys in their prime unlike Pacquiao who fights old, shot, and weight drained fighters.

    Floyd is inactive so he doesn't belong up there in the list right now.
    He cant jump Pac unless Pac struggles with or loses to Mosley. Im gonna wait it out with Mayweather and see if he signs a fight soon. But I cant really argue with Martinez jumping him at this point. I also dont want to over do it with this win by Serg either. Dizzy was taylor made and I knew it and Martinez did what he was supposed to do. If the next fight is a big fight then that will be the one that gets rid of the maybe's.

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    • #52
      Martinez is the shiat!!!!!!!

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      • #53
        he should be considered since he has yet to be matched against a cash cow to sell ppv. i see Pirog getting a shot if he wins next week and that just continues Martinez's incredible streak. he's fighting up and coming strong fighters with zero losses and fighters who are coming off of big wins and thats the number one reaon to consider Martinez and Donaire for top spots

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        • #54
          Originally posted by NSX-R View Post
          You guys are overrating Martinez. He was basically unknown two years ago, and now he's being regarded as #1 p4p from the results of only three fights (Pavlik, Williams, Sergiy). That's ridiculous. Pacquiao and Mayweather are still far more accomplished than Martinez.
          It is not a question of accomplishment but a comparison of skill and hunger. Seeing Martinez win the way he's been finishing fights and make his opponents look second rate much like Manny and Floyd are doing to their opponents, he is worth the consideration.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
            It's good to see the consensus here is that Maravilla is already the number 1 P4P, because that's the damn truth.
            how about Floyd then?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by johncods View Post
              Yeah cause Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito aren't top guys. I know it kills you fanboys seeing Pac on top.
              I'm really not one to care about P4P status, all opinionated, but I seriously cant see an argument for Pacquiao. There has to be some sort of consistency in facing top opposition.

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              • #57
                easily h is the true p4p best followed second by donaire. then pac then may.

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                • #58
                  im sorry. manny is amazing. but if it had been mayweather who had went thru a gauntlet of opponents who had either had big losses in their last few fights or were beat by his main p4p rival, it wouldnt even be an argument.

                  well i guess pac is the man because he fights "bigger" fighters.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                    I struggle to see how Pacquiao should be ranked higher than Sergio P4P, I really do man.
                    Well that's because most of you guys are just being biased.

                    People say the Hatton victory doesn't mean much due to Floyd KO'ing him, but let's look at this objectively.

                    Hatton was very competive for the first 5-6 rounds against Floyd. He got stopped but that was him stepping up in weight against the best WW at that time.

                    Pavlik stepped up against B-hop and got dominated from the opening bell to the end of the fight. Sadly people wanna bring up Hattons loss but totally disregard Pavliks loss. Not only that Hatton was a better champ in his class and Manny destroyed him.

                    Then take Cotto. Cotto clearly is a better champ than Williams, has a better resume so at best I think the Williams win is on par with Cotto.

                    And finally Martinez beat Dzin. Great win and all but again I'm just not seeing how that propells Martinez to #1.

                    How does 3 hot wins surpass a decade of dominance? I some of you guys don't like Pacquiao but the attempts to hype up Martinez as the top p4p guy is comical.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
                      EXACTLY.

                      I Donaire KOing Montiel in 2>>>>Sergio KOing Dzinziruk in 8. If anyone has a case for leapfrogging Pac, it's Nonito. But people are so caught up in the moment they overlook the fact that Sergio beat a dude with 0 quality wins (unless you consider Daniel Santos quality) at a higher weight than his normal/natural. Again, nice performance by Serg though, but nothing that makes you the top guy in the sport.
                      just like manny fighting clottey right after he beat cotto, who beat clottey and manny just destroyed cotto. plus, he turned down a fight with foreman before he took his first lost to cotto and said he was too big (they mentioned height). but then they fight margo, same height as foreman, and probably wouldve demanded a catchweight at 150 like they did. he someone who hasn't fought in a year, let alone got destroyed by mosley. sergio's opponents are big names like pacman, but theyre coming off wins and actually are seen as threats. martinez is #1 right now imo, but i'm sure pacman will go back to #1 once he is done beating up old mosley. if you think donaire has a case being leapfrogged over manny, and not sergio, let alone not think martinez is a top guy in the sport, im not so sure what youre watching....

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