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  • Originally posted by johncods View Post
    Pacquiao
    Martinez
    Donaire
    Myweather
    I agree with this list.

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    • Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
      Lots of fail in this post.

      I'm still waiting for someone to name the most notable win for Sergey and to tell me when his last fight at MW was. Donaire beating Montiel, the way he did it, is infinitely more impressive than a win over some guy whose name no one can pronounce or even heard of before last week.

      And people get caught up with undefeated records too much. It's quality over quantity. Why isn't Tim Bradley #1 after beating Lamont Peterson (27-0), Abregu (29-0, at WW), and Alexander (21-0) in succession? Peterson and Alexander are better quality wins than Dzinziruk, have more quality wins against good opposition, are undefeated, and Bradley beat them at their weight.

      See how easy it is to blow things out of proportion?

      Good win for Sergio, but come on.
      so i guess pavlik and williams doesnt mean anything right? pac stays at number one after clottey and margs because he still has the support of his hatton KO in 09. and i never said donaire shouldnt have been bumped up, he deserves it, he's on a roll.....my arguement was with pac. he fought clottey, what significant wins? he fought margo, a ****in cheater. let alone, lost to williams and mosley before. now pac's fighting mosley. bradley is number one in p4p (both ring and boxrec). he was before facing alexander too...
      seriously, replying to your comment is a waste of time. a ******* like yourself will bash or try to discredit anyone who gets into his god's way in any conversation. be open to different opinions and discussion for a change...no need to reply, cause i'm done checking up on this thread. ill let your opinions be your opinions prince pac.

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      • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
        what bigger guy??? margarito??? if u think pacs win over margarito is better than sergio's win over dinzurik then im not even gonna respond to u. ur a tard and thats inexcusable.
        so Sergio's win against Jr Middleweight was better than Pac's win against Margarito? what has Sergei done? who has this dude beat? Sergei wasnt even a top guy in jr. middleweight and fighting in a middleweight division. and Sergio clearly a bigger man while Pac was way too small against Margarito.

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        • Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
          Cool, so you think a win over Dzinziruk (hope I'm spelling that right, but who knows? ) is better than one against Margarito? Really?

          Name the best opponent he has beaten or faced, then tell me when his last fight at MW was before tonight.

          I can wait...
          Dzinzurik beat Santos.....Santos holds 2 wins over Margarito.....

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          • Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
            No idiot, I actually touched that as well. How is the Pavlik victory better than the Hatton victory or the Williams victory better than Cotto.

            Also while Dzin is good, he hasn't had a serious fight in almost three years, and that was against Joel Julio, and was brought up to a class he never fought at.

            It seems you d1ck riders like to play the discredit game, and when the same things can be apply to Sergio and his recent wins.


            Btw you claim Mosley and Margarito are joke opponents yet what is Chavez Jr as Martinez next opponent or worst Andy lee, a fight Martinez would jump on in a heart beat instead of manning up and facing Pirog.
            those speculated **** fights are yet to be determined. if they come off sure then hes fighting jokes but atleast you can admit marg and oldsley are jokes at this point in their careers. and yes atg status is what your arguing. your bringing up 2009 victories to argue martinez' 2010 victories because you know pacs 200 doesnt compare to sergios. and yes p4p is about today not yesterday or by your logic p4p were still looking at sugar ray leonard arent we?

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            • i see *****s bumping up martinez in their p4p list but not moving floyd.

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              • Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
                floyds retired and isnt on the list. why do you bring him up? im talking about the true p4p best maravilla. get with the times please.
                You quoted me aszwipe. I can say maravilla was a luck puncher. He lost to paul williams initially. Why not fight him again?

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                • Let me compare their achievements at the 3 weight divisions the fought.

                  Martinez started at welterweight and fought the following fighters.
                  Welterweight - nothing much to say at this weight
                  Light Middleweight - Cintron? lose to Williams
                  Middleweight - Pavlik, Willliams and Dzinziruk = P4P#1?

                  Pacquiao started at 106/flyweight and fought the following fighters.
                  Flyweight - beat the lineal WBC champ Sasakul
                  Super Bantamweight - beat the no. 1 super bantamweight IBF champ Ledwaba
                  Featherweight - Lineal champ and Ring Champ HOF Barrera

                  Take note Pac did good while moving up but Martinez nothing much to say at welterweight and Light Middleweight.
                  Sasakul, Ledwaba and Barrera >>>>>> Pavlik, Williams and Dzinziruk.
                  Pac beat the above fighters in their prime and a much better fighters than the 3 fighters Martinez fought p4p and accomplishment wise but did Pac suddenly became no. P4P#1? LOL!
                  Last edited by straightleft; 03-13-2011, 01:58 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by tolTec View Post
                    i see *****s bumping up martinez in their p4p list but not moving floyd.
                    I don't even have Floyd on my p4p, I do it like the amateurs do it, you don't fight, you lose your rank quick.

                    How the hell fighters on a p4p list with 1 fight a year? Crazy

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                    • all ill say is this, for the this last year, who martinez has been fighting and the way he has been dominating them is unrivaled in boxing. if theres an argument otherwise, ill wait to hear it. but i dont think it is.

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