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  • jrosales13
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    #71
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    What your saying is outright wrong.

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    • Code Red
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      #72
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Neither Zab nor Sharma Mitchell are slick fighters and compared to Whitaker they are face first brawlers in comparison. Really not a good comparison at all there.

      Whitaker beat Mcgirt clearly, on both occasions.

      You saw the draw coming a mile away???? I mean seriously??? Come on, now.

      Has Whitaker fought someone like Floyd? No.

      Has he fought someone considered as great or greater than Floyd? Yes.

      Floyd has fought no one on Pernell Whitakers level.

      I'm actually the exact opposite to your last part. I love Floyd, he's my favourite active fighter and of my favourite fighters of all time. I prefer him to Whitaker by quite a bit.

      But how anyone can say Floyd has ever advantage over Pernell Whitaker is extremely puzzling.
      Floyd is an evolved form of what Whitaker can do, evolved means better

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        #73
        Originally posted by Code Red
        Floyd is an evolved form of what Whitaker can do, evolved means better
        I don't know who's opinion sucks more yours or the one who said Oscar was inexperienced.

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        • megas30
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          #74
          Originally posted by jrosales13


          WOW....................


          "Young and inexperience"

          Dude, your 26, so your prob still pissing in diaper to actually break down a fight. Your arrogance is understandable...not because he was younger mean he was prime. Prime is when everything came to together for him. Oscar was just chasing pea and throw flurries, to me that was an amateurish performance. A Prime Hoya fought Tito, Quartey and Mosley.

          Pea was able to capitalize on Oscar's amateurish effort.

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          • Code Red
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            #75
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Floyd is a strong dude, don't get me wrong, but Whitaker is clearly the physically stronger guy. He wasn't a big dude either and he was able to move much bigger guys, Tito, Oscar, JCV, at only 5'5 1/2 too!

            Pernell would have dominated the blown up Marquez, especially that version of Mosley. In all seriousness, that Mosley wouldn't have done anything with Whitaker, mismatch IMO.
            So at 5'5 how can you say he's physically stronger than Floyd, if thats the case then he wouldn't need to duck, dodge and wiggle his whole body from every punch. Floyd is a superb inside fighter, he will stand his ground and muscle with the best of them, see the Hatton fight. Whitaker would of likely went 12 close rounds with that version of Hatton, no KO. To me, there isn't any one skill Whitaker does better than Floyd. Personally I wouldn't want to ser a fight between Pea and Floyd, it would be boring, a stalemate cause both are defensive specialist. Floyd however would probably be more likely to break through with his offense.
            Last edited by Code Red; 03-10-2011, 12:42 PM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              How can anybody in their right mind call Oscar "young and inexperience" at the time he fought Whitaker?

              To think Oscar wasn't prime is asinine.

              He was already a 3 division title holder.

              With a 2 round destruction of Ruelas, wins over title holders like Chicanito Hernandez, wins over contenders like Molina, Leija, Paez, Gonzalez(who was close to P4P level fighter at the time), also the destruction of a faded JCC.

              To say he was inexperience is absolutely ridiculous.
              Those ppl were just holding the belts for Hbo potential cash cow. Thats the reason he was even given the fight against sweet pea. They were pushing oscar hard through the ranks.

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              • tredh
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                #77
                Originally posted by megas30
                Dude, your 26, so your prob still pissing in diaper to actually break down a fight. Your arrogance is understandable...not because he was younger mean he was prime. Prime is when everything came to together for him. Oscar was just chasing pea and throw flurries, to me that was an amateurish performance. A Prime Hoya fought Tito, Quartey and Mosley.

                Pea was able to capitalize on Oscar's amateurish effort.
                Young, Prime and Old Oscar all threw amatuerish flurries. That was something he always did no matter the stage of his career. Those BS flurries is part of the reason you still have dumb @ss people thinking the PBF vs. De la Hoya fight was close when it wasn't.

                Did you ever take the time and think that maybe it was Whitaker that made De la Hoya look like a amatuer?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Code Red
                  So at 5'5 how can you say he's physically stronger than Floyd, if thats the case then he wouldn't need to duck, dodge and wiggle his whole body from every punch. Floyd is a superb inside fighter, he will stand his ground and muscle with the best of them, see the Hatton fight. Whitaker would of likely went 12 close rounds with that version of Hatton, no KO. To me, there isn't any one skill Whitaker does better than Floyd. Personally a fight between Pea and Floyd would be boring, a stalemate cause both are defensive specialist. Floyd however would probably be more likely to break through with his offense.
                  That's nice, and Hatton is a strong little guy. But I didn't see Mayweather maneuver Baldomir, or Oscar around the ring. I seen Whitaker hold his own against a much bigger JCV, Tito, Oscar, like literally push them around when he wanted to, Floyd's a strong dude but he doesn't have that kind of strength.

                  Bold, this is why I'm really starting to doubt you've seen enough of Whitaker.

                  Say for example we talked about some of the greatest body punchers, Whitaker is an honorable mention, Not Floyd.

                  Say for example we talked about some of the greatest Jabbers, Whitaker is an honorable mention, Not Floyd. Pernell has the best southpaw jab I've ever seen.

                  Just watch the guy man!

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by megas30
                    Dude, your 26, so your prob still pissing in diaper to actually break down a fight. Your arrogance is understandable...not because he was younger mean he was prime. Prime is when everything came to together for him. Oscar was just chasing pea and throw flurries, to me that was an amateurish performance. A Prime Hoya fought Tito, Quartey and Mosley.

                    Pea was able to capitalize on Oscar's amateurish effort.
                    That's the way Oscar fights, he has always fought the way in coming forward and throwing flurries. His had always been that except for the Tito fight and mostly during the Quartey fight where it was just a feinting contest for 10 rounds.. He did it with Mosley too. The only difference is that an old Whitaker had style and and stance to give Oscar trouble and make Oscar look silly.

                    Oscar was prime, and you look at his resume and accomplishment up to that point you would see he had the experience.

                    I don't know how old you're but that doesn't matter because obviously you don't know WTF you're talking about.

                    Originally posted by Code Red
                    So at 5'5 how can you say he's physically stronger than Floyd, if thats the case then he wouldn't need to duck, dodge and wiggle his whole body from every punch. Floyd is a superb inside fighter, he will stand his ground and muscle with the best of them, see the Hatton fight. Whitaker would of likely went 12 close rounds with that version of Hatton, no KO. To me, there isn't any one skill Whitaker does better than Floyd. Personally a fight between Pea and Floyd would be boring, a stalemate cause both are defensive specialist. Floyd however would probably be more likely to break through with his offense.
                    Because, one can still be stronger at being just 5'5.

                    Barbados Joe Walcott was what 5'2? And, stronger than a lot of WWs fighting right now.




                    I might be 26 and on my diapers in some events but I know a little bit about the sport and it's history.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Code Red
                      So at 5'5 how can you say he's physically stronger than Floyd, if thats the case then he wouldn't need to duck, dodge and wiggle his whole body from every punch. Floyd is a superb inside fighter, he will stand his ground and muscle with the best of them, see the Hatton fight. Whitaker would of likely went 12 close rounds with that version of Hatton, no KO. To me, there isn't any one skill Whitaker does better than Floyd. Personally I wouldn't want to ser a fight between Pea and Floyd, it would be boring, a stalemate cause both are defensive specialist. Floyd however would probably be more likely to break through with his offense.
                      Are you saying taller = stronger?

                      It seems like it but I refuse to believe it until you confirm it.

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