If Rjjr retired after Tarver I

[joelab75]

If Floyd Mayweather gets KTFO in 2 rounds against Pacman, Martinez or etc, I won't say he is exposed, because Floyd had proven himself already against lot of decent fighters. But RJJ was really exposed as a B-level fighter.

LMAO!!! Proven and Floyd shouldnt be in the same sentence. He didnt fight the best in welterweight when he had a chance and instead retired. now he did it again! retiring again to avoid Pac.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

LMAO!!! Proven and Floyd shouldnt be in the same sentence. He didnt fight the best in welterweight when he had a chance and instead retired. now he did it again! retiring again to avoid Pac.

This thread isnt about Floyd and Pac.

Shut the *** up

[RAV3N]

A proven PED user shouldnt be considered as an ATG imo.

[Check_hooks]

I have him over 20.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

people need to realize something...Roy Jones obviously hit a big stretch of trouble etc etc...KO losses, poor showings, etc...it obviously statted with the Tarver KO and its been downhill ever since...but in fairness to the champ, he was 35 YEARS OLD...he was 35 YEARS OLD at the time

[Haglerwins]

How on earth would he considered a top 10 fighter if he retired on a questionable decision agaisnt the first semi-elite fighter he'd fought in years?

He pulled it out against Tarver the 1st time. Questionable my ass. It's just a close fight.

And the man dropped 25lbs of muscle from HW. It's a wonder he wasn't KO'd immediately from the quick drop. All the fighters who have have performed significant weight class drops have been immediately KO'd following it or just plain embarrassed recently as proof of the effect.

Roy was ****in Superman.

Here's what the resume would've looked like had he stopped after Tarver

49-1 (and the 1 is a bs DQ)

Hopkins Toney Hill Tarver Ruiz (he has 2 prime ATGs on his resume!)

More avoided than he ducked.

And he looked superhuman physically just about til the end.

Historians would've had a hard time even having him lose a fantasy fight, when he could take a decent HW punch.. and he started from fkn 154.

Jones was a freak. And he was being compared regularly to Ray Robinson at his peak.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He pulled it out against Tarver the 1st time. Questionable my ass. It's just a close fight.

And the man dropped 25lbs of muscle from HW. It's a wonder he wasn't KO'd immediately from the quick drop. All the fighters who have have performed significant weight class drops have been immediately KO'd following it or just plain embarrassed recently as proof of the effect.

Roy was ****in Superman.

Here's what the resume would've looked like had he stopped after Tarver

49-1 (and the 1 is a bs DQ)

Hopkins Toney Hill Tarver Ruiz (he has 2 prime ATGs on his resume!)

More avoided than he ducked.

And he looked superhuman physically just about til the end.

Historians would've had a hard time even having him lose a fantasy fight, when he could take a decent HW punch.. and he started from fkn 154.

Jones was a freak. And he was being compared regularly to Ray Robinson at his peak.

You didnt really answer the question. You're talking about ducking and fantasy fights and hypothetical *****.

Tarver was a close fight that could've gone either way against the best fighter he'd fought in years. He retires on that and is a top 10 all time?

Um....no

[Haglerwins]

You didnt really answer the question. You're talking about ducking and fantasy fights and hypothetical *****.

Tarver was a close fight that could've gone either way against the best fighter he'd fought in years. He retires on that and is a top 10 all time?

Um....no

Well.. the ducking is important because a few of these fighters that should've been names on the resume, were reluctant to fight him.. but blame gets put on Jones. Not fair.

He'd have an even greater legacy.

Anyway, like I said top 10, but politics would make him top 20. It's impossible to bump some of the old timers historically by the old news men.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Well.. the ducking is important because a few of these fighters that should've been names on the resume, were reluctant to fight him.. but blame gets put on Jones. Not fair.

He'd have an even greater legacy.

Anyway, like I said top 10, but politics would make him top 20. It's impossible to bump some of the old timers historically by the old news men.

No its not important. Whats important is his skills and resume. Talent wise, he may well be top 10. Best ive seen in my lifetime. Resume? Nowhere near.

[Haglerwins]

No its not important. Whats important is his skills and resume. Talent wise, he may well be top 10. Best ive seen in my lifetime. Resume? Nowhere near.

bull**** it ain't. How can you get the names on the resume, when you have ducking in play? Roy was whoopin everybody AND being avoided. Even your precious Calzaghe is quoted on his instinct to avoid Jones unless he was paid huge money for it. As an unknown SMW he was trippin with that. Remember, Roy even had HBO on a find me an opponent then stretch when it seemed like he was just whoopin nobodies.

Not Jr's fault he was so Super ppl ran.