Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Marquez Trilogy Eyed For November, Says Arum

[AIR_KENG]

Yea, you were right. Arum has no intention on putting Manny in there with a fresh opponent man. He just doesn't. And Manny doesn't even have he backbone to speak up about quality of guys that he is facing. He will just put it on Arum, "I fight whoever my promoter has me fight." LOL. That is what young and up coming fighters and prospects say.

what I can't understand is people diss Manny because he was not fighting JMM. Now that they are trying to make the third fight people are still not pleased.

[ronnie_N.]

Pacquiao will lose to Marquez for a 3rd time if they fight again.

But like the 2nd fight. Arum will have handpicked corrupt judges in place.

Marquez can't KO the roidman. So he's in a no win situation.

wow, seems we don't need to see pacquiao-marquez 3... this a$$bag already had everything figured out....

[Vasyl’s dad]

I know right. This reminds me of when Floyd moved up to WW in 2006 and beat 2 out of the TOP 3 guys right off the bat.

People shat all over themselves about Floyd fighting the # 3 WW in Judah who lost to the #1 WW in Baldo. So what did Floyd do? He fought BOTH to become the #1 WW and SILENCED everyone (or so he thought). People still shat and are still shatting themselves. Its crazy. Is Pac the new Mayweather?

You mean the Judah who had already been KO'd and then beaten by Cory Spinks? Or the Judah who just lost his previous fight to Carlos "I'm 35 and have 9 losses and 6 draws in my storied career" Baldomir?


No, you can't be serious because there is no relation to those fights and people screaming for a trilogy between Manny and Juan just a few weeks ago.

[JOM'S]

as long as mayweather is still not available, I have no problem with this fight and needs to happen...

[ADP02]

lol! I remember so clearly when they announced that Mosley was fighting Manny.

There were many of the Manny haters that were calling Manny a coward for ducking Marquez, as for them, that fight made more sense.

Based on those two, I thought Mosley was a better option than Marquez and still do BUT at least it will shut some up IF this Marquez fight does happen.

I have always liked Marquez but at this point in time, THIS Manny will smoke THIS Marquez ....

[Tamis!]

Those who are saying Manny will be KOed by Marquez this time are plain ******.

Even at 140, Marquez don't stand a chance.

But if they fight at 135 on November he can have a slim chance. Too bad it's not gonna happen at that weight.

[PACnPBFsuck]

lol! I remember so clearly when they announced that Mosley was fighting Manny.

There were many of the Manny haters that were calling Manny a coward for ducking Marquez, as for them, that fight made more sense.

Based on those two, I thought Mosley was a better option than Marquez and still do BUT at least it will shut some up IF this Marquez fight does happen.

I have always liked Marquez but at this point in time, THIS Manny will smoke THIS Marquez ....

You're probably right, why not fight a black guy during Mexican independence weekend.

It would be a ****** move to fight the most liked Mexican out there.

Mosley made no sense to PACQUIAO or anybody who has a clue, that why hw wanted to fight Marquez.

So what you're saying is that this Manny won't smoke sugar?

[WESS]

You mean the Judah who had already been KO'd and then beaten by Cory Spinks? Or the Judah who just lost his previous fight to Carlos "I'm 35 and have 9 losses and 6 draws in my storied career" Baldomir?


No, you can't be serious because there is no relation to those fights and people screaming for a trilogy between Manny and Juan just a few weeks ago.

Yes the #3 WW in Judah and the #1 WW in Baldo who hadn't lost in 8+ years. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Floyd in 2006 after the Mitchell "tuneup" in 05 fought 2 out of the TOP 3 WW's to become the #1 WW back in 06.

Floyd was bashed for fighting THE #3 WW who was beat by THE #1 WW. End of the day he fought both... Point is, people where still not pleased. Pac's now in that same boat by fighting Mosley NOW and not then.... instead of JMM now and not then....

You cant make everyone happy but MY point was at least the fighters Floyd fought where Champions and or winning and like I said at least or HOPEFULLY JMM will be on a winning streak because Mosley is now the 3 fighter in a row who hasn't won a significant fight in over 2 years......


side note:
Since we all know JMM is fighting Pac next, regardless if Floyd is back or not (Bob has an agenda). I think JMM should be looking to fight Judah at 147 (since Pac wont fight below 147 vs JMM) as a tune up.

[LeadUppercut]

Well that's looking back in hindsight...I think it's easy to look back at it...But, the fact is Pac wasn't suppose to win that fight. And, everybody says the Oscar about WW. But, nobody mentions that not only Pac went up 2 weight-class to fight him. But, he was at 135 for just one fight...If you really look at it you can say he went up 3 weight-classes.

I feel if you felt beforehand that Pac was going to beat Oscar.

Then that's fine if you don't want to give him credit.

But, if you thought that Pac couldn't really win the fight. Then you have have to give him credit.

For example I give Floyd the up most credit for beating the likes of Mosley. Because, before the fight even though I thought Floyd would win, I favored Floyd I still thought Mosley was a legit thread...

And, I could be like these F'ing idiots like Wess and try to diminish that win by Floyd. By making all type of excuses, as in Shane was old, worn out, shot, was coming off the longest layoff of his career, 16 month layoff, and blah blah...But, that would be very faggotry(not a real word) of me to do so. Because, I knew all of that beforehand and I still thought he was a threat. So of course I give Floyd credit.

People knew that Oscar was old, people knew that Oscar was going back down to 147 and hadn't been there in years, people knew that light feather fisted -at 130- Forbes marked up Oscar face pretty damn bad. People knew all of that and they still thought Oscar was cherry picking a small guy in Pac. So not to give Pac credit, I mean C'mon.

Good post, but one other hypothesis is..... that fight wasn't as much of a "cherry-picking" fight as people thought, because of the fact that Oscar was clearly shot, as evidenced in the Forbes fight, and because he was never going to be effective at welter.

And, Oscar inexplicably ***ed up the weight, effectively "dumping himself in it".

145 = two weeks before the fight
145 = at the official weigh-in
145 = on fight-night

Clearly, something went wrong.

That was a superb performance by Pac, as usual, but I stand by my earlier call that even Marquez would have k****ed out that version of shrink-wrapped Hoya, as would every top welter, and most top JWW's.

[LeadUppercut]

It might not have a been a prime Cotto. But, it's still a good win. I mean beating Hopkins right now is still considered a good win. And, he's past his prime.

I don't even think Cotto was weight-drained either. IMDAZED who was in the weigh-in for Cotto-Clottey said that Cotto who weighed in at 146 was laughing it up after wards. While it was Clottey who was drinking gallons of water after the weigh-in. That tells me Cotto had no problems at all making 146, Clottey was the one arguably drained making 147 or had tons of problems making it. So I doubt Cotto was drained at 145.

It was a legit fight going in...Again everybody in hindsight likes to pick apart wins. I could do that also...But, if I felt one way going into it. I'm not going to try to diminish it after the fact.

Good point, that was a very good win.