Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Marquez Trilogy Eyed For November, Says Arum

[LeadUppercut]

Those who are saying Manny will be KOed by Marquez this time are plain ******.

Even at 140, Marquez don't stand a chance.

But if they fight at 135 on November he can have a slim chance. Too bad it's not gonna happen at that weight.

Agreed, it will not be a "trilogy" fight.

It will just be yet another example of how it could have been a good fight, if Pac had fought an opponent who was on top of his game and at his best weight.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Agreed, it will not be a "trilogy" fight.

It will just be yet another example of how it could have been a good fight, if Pac had fought an opponent who was on top of his game and at his best weight.

contrary to what people say, i dont think this could have been a good fight...even at 135


JMM has shown major slippage and even at lightweight, where he was stunned by Juan Diaz and buckled by Katsidis, he would get worked by PAC

[Vegan101]

There ought to be a law to stop Pacquiao from fighting Mexicans. It's been proven many times over that Pacquiao is Mexico's pappi.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes the #3 WW in Judah and the #1 WW in Baldo who hadn't lost in 8+ years. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Floyd in 2006 after the Mitchell "tuneup" in 05 fought 2 out of the TOP 3 WW's to become the #1 WW back in 06.

Floyd was bashed for fighting THE #3 WW who was beat by THE #1 WW. End of the day he fought both... Point is, people where still not pleased. Pac's now in that same boat by fighting Mosley NOW and not then.... instead of JMM now and not then....

You cant make everyone happy but MY point was at least the fighters Floyd fought where Champions and or winning and like I said at least or HOPEFULLY JMM will be on a winning streak because Mosley is now the 3 fighter in a row who hasn't won a significant fight in over 2 years......


side note:
Since we all know JMM is fighting Pac next, regardless if Floyd is back or not (Bob has an agenda). I think JMM should be looking to fight Judah at 147 (since Pac wont fight below 147 vs JMM) as a tune up.

lol, "the numbers two and three, thats all that matters".

I guess, if you choose to look at numbers without context.

I mean, we can easily look at these numbers without context and decipher that Rocky Marciano and Joe Calzaghe are the greatest fighters ever because their records are 49-0 and 46-0.
Right? Because we all know, "numbers don't lie"

and no, Judah was not a champion, and was not winning.

[WESS]

lol, "the numbers two and three, thats all that matters".

I guess, if you choose to look at numbers without context.

I mean, we can easily look at these numbers without context and decipher that Rocky Marciano and Joe Calzaghe are the greatest fighters ever because their records are 49-0 and 46-0.
Right? Because we all know, "numbers don't lie"

You can do as you please but numbers had nothing to do with them being THE guys to beat at WW. THE guys people bashed Floyd for "ducking" so he fought both and STILL didn't please people. End of story

Even when he wanted to fight Cotto at JWW and Bob wouldn't let him people STILL bashed him for not fighting Cotto at JWW and WW..... You cant please everyone. Just like Pac, you still cant justify Clottey, Margarito and now Mosley in the time frame BOB and Pac choose to fight them. But like I said you cant please everyone. So what do we get Floyd beating the #1 WW and going on vacation while Pac fighting has beens on non winning streaks for over 2 years! You cant please everyone right???? It's what ever....

and Calzaghe.......? Calzaghe who?

[ThePrince]

There ought to be a law to stop Pacquiao from fighting Mexicans. It's been proven many times over that Pacquiao is Mexico's pappi.

To appease the terrible wrath of Pacquiao and to stop him from continually massacring their brave warriors, the locals have named Manny dictator for life of Mexico and offered him their soccer team for his own personal amusement:

[ADP02]

You're probably right, why not fight a black guy during Mexican independence weekend.

It would be a ****** move to fight the most liked Mexican out there.

Mosley made no sense to PACQUIAO or anybody who has a clue, that why hw wanted to fight Marquez.

So what you're saying is that this Manny won't smoke sugar?

There were reason's for not fighting Marquez first. Mainly it was about money and that Marquez was with GBP.

THE POINT: Manny was not avoiding Marquez like the haters had concluded. Manny was not a coward/scared of Marquez like the haters concluded.


As for, why not fight Marquez during that weekend? According to Arum, even now he believes that Mosley is the better option, the better opponent and the better payday. Arum got what he wanted in getting both of them WITHOUT GBP's presence (taking part of the pot).


Your question about smoking Mosley?
If I was a betting man, I see Mosley (compared to Marquez) still being the more dangerous opponent. Styles makes fights. Mosley still has decent speed, is the bigger man, has the power to KO someone, and determination. While Marquez used to have the right style against Manny, this is no longer 2004 nor 2008. Marquez does NOT have the power to get Manny's respect at these higher weights.

I can see Manny KO the smaller Marquez. I can see Manny taking over the fight sooner since he will not give Marquez the respect ..... but I think it would still be a harder task to run right over Mosley.

Do I see Manny winning? Yes..... but not by KO and even a win by stoppage will be a hard task against Mosley....but I can see Manny dominating the fight.


Winning:
Mosley's problem is that he had a very hard time "finding" Floyd and Mora. Manny defensively speaking, can be found much more frequently. Therefore Mosley has a punchers chance.

Marquez chances are very very slim.

[Pin Galarga]

Arum is full of S H ! T.

[FrankieClutch]

Come on man.

Haye beat a guy who was a foot taller than him, and 100lbs heavier.

You telling me that was a great win ?

Let me document Hoya's " transition " down to 147 for ya......

145 = Two weeks before the fight

145 = At the official weigh-in

145 = On fight-night

Can you really not see what happened there ?

Have you really never seen what a healthy Hoya looks like ?

He was literally a dead man walking, or sitting, as the case may be.

Yes that was a b1tch move by Hoya, and yes it backfired, and yes Manny was superb..... but dude, you wanna see me work the bag

It's about who you fought, and when you fought them.

Don't get me wrong bro, I'm not saying DLH wasn't weight drained. He WAS weight drained.

But seriously, people talk like Pac was the cherry picker in that fight.

[PACnPBFsuck]

There were reason's for not fighting Marquez first. Mainly it was about money and that Marquez was with GBP.

THE POINT: Manny was not avoiding Marquez like the haters had concluded. Manny was not a coward/scared of Marquez like the haters concluded.


As for, why not fight Marquez during that weekend? According to Arum, even now he believes that Mosley is the better option, the better opponent and the better payday. Arum got what he wanted in getting both of them WITHOUT GBP's presence (taking part of the pot).


Your question about smoking Mosley?
If I was a betting man, I see Mosley (compared to Marquez) still being the more dangerous opponent. Styles makes fights. Mosley still has decent speed, is the bigger man, has the power to KO someone, and determination. While Marquez used to have the right style against Manny, this is no longer 2004 nor 2008. Marquez does NOT have the power to get Manny's respect at these higher weights.

I can see Manny KO the smaller Marquez. I can see Manny taking over the fight sooner since he will not give Marquez the respect ..... but I think it would still be a harder task to run right over Mosley.

Do I see Manny winning? Yes..... but not by KO and even a win by stoppage will be a hard task against Mosley....but I can see Manny dominating the fight.
Winning:
Mosley's problem is that he had a very hard time "finding" Floyd and Mora. Manny defensively speaking, can be found much more frequently. Therefore Mosley has a punchers chance.

Marquez chances are very very slim.

You're argument doesn't have any merit, since PAC vs JMM 2. PAC hasn't faced another counter-puncher, PAC hasn't faced anybody with the actual head movement, PAC hasn't faced ANYBODY with JMM heart.

So when you say Mosley had problem finding Mora or PBF, imaging what's gonna happened when he faces PAC, who's been picking apart flat footed fighters with ease.

STOP trying to justify the Mosley fight, be a boxing fan, not a Bob Arum fan.